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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2012, 01:59:16 AM »
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In konsole do following

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[gert@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf

This can get boringly long so find the section Device looking something like this:

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Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 6100 to GeForce 360"
    Driver "nvidia"
    Option "DPMS"
    Option "DynamicTwinView" "false"
    Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals"
EndSection

Post the similar section from your system   :)
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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2012, 02:52:49 PM »
As requested here it is:

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Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 6100 to GeForce 360"
    Driver "nvidia"
    Option "DPMS"
    Option "DynamicTwinView" "false"
    Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals"
EndSection

It looks just like yours but it really is my output.

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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2012, 04:51:33 PM »
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Not a bad start  ;D

From root konsole post the result of

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[root@localhost ~]# cat /var/log/messages |grep -i nvidia

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[root@localhost ~]# dmesg |grep -i edd

What is the model of your nVidia card?

What is the model of your LG screen?

How do you connect to the LG, normal VGA connection or DVI?

It is not clear to me if you actually tried AS suggestion to add EDD=off on the kernel boot line. You showed the stanza but it is not visible in the kernel line?

Depending on how you do the EDD=off this is what I get when doing this during boot

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[root@localhost ~]# dmesg |grep -i edd
PERCPU: Embedded 13 pages/cpu @ec400000 s28736 r0 d24512 u1048576
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=KDE-mini_201202 root=LABEL=HITACHI-01  quiet nokmsboot vmalloc=256M acpi=on resume=LABEL=swap4000 splash=verbose vga=791 EDD=off
BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 3 devices found
[root@localhost ~]#

In my case I went to GRUB text mode start by hitting the ESC key and navigate carefully to my start line and reading the help instructions on the screen.  Then edited the kernel line. :)
« Last Edit: April 29, 2012, 05:09:02 PM by wedgetail »
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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2012, 05:59:51 PM »
Sorry but I guess I missed doing the EDD=off tip.
Anyway I just edited the menu.lst file and added that command to the end of the Kernel line.
I'll do a quick reboot and let you know what happens.

« Last Edit: April 29, 2012, 06:10:24 PM by Neo »

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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2012, 06:05:08 PM »
Well it booted just fine but it's premature to mark this SOLVED as it is an intermittent problem.
I didn't actually see any difference between this boot up and the other times when it has booted up no problem.

When it does hang, it always happens at the first splash screen, when the progress bar pauses for a few seconds before the words "booting... " appear on screen.
The pause usually only lasts for about five seconds and then the words "booting... " appear.
If the pause is any longer then it simply won't boot.


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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2012, 07:07:14 PM »
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To convince me that you got it right, do the konsole step I showed as the last item in previous post ie we want to see the kernel boot line as the kernel saw it. 

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[root@localhost ~]# dmesg |grep -i edd

« Last Edit: April 29, 2012, 07:08:49 PM by wedgetail »
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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2012, 07:53:57 PM »
Here you go:

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[root@localhost ~]# # cat /var/log/messages |grep -i nvidia
[root@localhost ~]# dmesg |grep -i edd
Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux root=UUID=1443a82f-8504-4ed5-8056-92bac3440ce4  quiet nokmsboot vmalloc=256M acpi=on resume=UUID=183f7817-550c-446a-8a0e-70f098303d50 splash=silent vga=788 EDD=off
PERCPU: Embedded 26 pages/cpu @ffff88007fc00000 s75776 r8192 d22528 u524288
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux root=UUID=1443a82f-8504-4ed5-8056-92bac3440ce4  quiet nokmsboot vmalloc=256M acpi=on resume=UUID=183f7817-550c-446a-8a0e-70f098303d50 splash=silent vga=788 EDD=off
BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 1 devices found
[root@localhost ~]#

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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2012, 08:01:16 PM »
Neo

What is the model of your nVidia card?

What is the model of your LG screen?

How do you connect to the LG, normal VGA connection or DVI?


To answer your questions above, I am using the correct driver, my card is a BFG 7900 GT OC (I'd have to find the box to give you the exact model number but if it isn't that exactly it's very close, although I have posted it elsewhere on this forum).
The model number of the TV is 32CS560, I posted a link to the actual specs earlier in this thread.
I am connect from the video card's DVI to the TV's HDMI using a cable that has DVI on one end and HDMI on the other.
The only downside is my video card is so old that it does not do audio, so I am still using my old computer speakers for sound.


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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2012, 08:39:56 PM »
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Anything wrong with your Configure Your Computer ? Tools in a circle icon in the panel. Try and follow that to Hardware > VideoCard There should be all sorts of details on the card as the motherboard/pclinuxos sees it ?

Is it not detected properly since you go to the packing box?
« Last Edit: April 29, 2012, 08:48:51 PM by wedgetail »
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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2012, 09:32:13 PM »
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Anything wrong with your Configure Your Computer ? Tools in a circle icon in the panel. Try and follow that to Hardware > VideoCard There should be all sorts of details on the card as the motherboard/pclinuxos sees it ?

Is it not detected properly since you go to the packing box?
No it's fine, like I said it's configured to the proper video card driver.

By the way I've always heard it referred to as the Control Center, but I know what you mean.

I do appreciate your help.

What does EDD=off do anyway?

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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2012, 09:51:05 PM »
EDD is an acronym for enhanced disk drive.
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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2012, 06:25:02 AM »
EDD is an acronym for enhanced disk drive.



or Embedded Data Display, or a bunch of other (mostly unrelated) meanings...
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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2012, 06:58:39 AM »
I have recently installed PCLinuxOS 64Bit Test04 on one of my extra partitions.

I have experienced this strange booting problem even with this OS.
It is an intermittent problem.

The "verbose" trick doesn't work with this OS.

Does anyone have any ideas how to correct or prevent this problem from reoccurring?


as  64bit tester we look forward to your troubleshooting this in the testing area.

Remember 64 bit is not supported as yet in the help forums

Jase

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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2012, 09:04:33 AM »
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I have looked at the manual for your TV, I was hoping it had a proper VGA input, not the case.  I see only two HDMI ports.

The DVI connector on the 7900 nVidia card, there are 6 different versions but since you have the system running when it boots I will assume that your DVI to HDMI cable suitable for your situation. From what I saw on a review of the VideoCard it may have come with that cable?

I am crossing my fingers that the EDD experiment may be helpful to you.  I think I am out of ideas.   ;D
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Re: Strange booting problem
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2012, 05:52:58 PM »
I have recently installed PCLinuxOS 64Bit Test04 on one of my extra partitions.

I have experienced this strange booting problem even with this OS.
It is an intermittent problem.

The "verbose" trick doesn't work with this OS.

Does anyone have any ideas how to correct or prevent this problem from reoccurring?


as  64bit tester we look forward to your troubleshooting this in the testing area.

Remember 64 bit is not supported as yet in the help forums

Jase

Thanks Jase, I look forward to contributing to Testing whatever I can.

However I was experiencing this booting problem with the Stable version long before I ever installed any of the Testing OS'.
The only reason I mentioned that I had experienced the same problem when booting 64Bit Test04 was to aid in the troubleshooting of this problem.