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Offline jakesdad

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Install on new Toshiba laptop
« on: March 25, 2012, 07:51:22 PM »
I'm running the 2012 Live CD KDE on right now on a Tosiba Satellite C655D-S5518  and everything works perfectly.  I know how to install, repartition. etc. but I'm concerned about the Windows 7 bootloader. Do I just install like i did with XP ? Or am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 07:56:12 PM »
the rule is install xp/ first and then kde, it will create a bootloader and add win7 to the boot list

i don't remember how to do it but there is a couple posts mentioning how to add it if it doesn't work automaticaly
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 11:23:23 PM »
Quote from: jakesdad on March 25, 2012, 07:51:22 PM
I'm running the 2012 Live CD KDE on right now on a Tosiba Satellite C655D-S5518  and everything works perfectly.  I know how to install, repartition. etc. but I'm concerned about the Windows 7 bootloader. Do I just install like i did with XP ? Or am I making a mountain out of a molehill?

Please see this thread on dual booting with Windows 7.
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2012, 06:06:42 PM »
Just did a couple of installs for friends and one was on a Toshiba laptop with win 7 installed
The 1st thing that I did was to download and install easeus partition master (free for home use)
( http://www.partition-tool.com/download.htm ) and shrank the win 7 partition.
From there it was just a matter of installing PCLinux using the free space on the HD
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2012, 06:59:40 PM »
Thanks guys. My real concern is where and will grub work.
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 02:18:30 AM »
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Thanks guys. My real concern is where and will grub work.


grub will detect the windows install and add an entry for it, but to be sure, you should at least boot from the liveCD and give us fdisk -l output.



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Please seehttp://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,101292.0.htmlon dual booting with Windows 7.

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The 1st thing that I did was to download and install easeus partition master (free for home use)

Is there evidence that the PCLOS partitioning tool, or gparted has a problem with this on win7 ? (I've been lucky enough to have limited contact with win7, but no issues yet with Linux partitioning tools).
« Last Edit: March 28, 2012, 02:20:21 AM by dvhenry »
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 02:46:11 AM »
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Please seehttp://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,101292.0.htmlon dual booting with Windows 7.

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The 1st thing that I did was to download and install easeus partition master (free for home use)

Is there evidence that the PCLOS partitioning tool, or gparted has a problem with this on win7 ? (I've been lucky enough to have limited contact with win7, but no issues yet with Linux partitioning tools).


This part of my previous reply is for my own interest. The installer should offer to resize the partition. I note that parted/gparted recommend using the windows tools for the partition resize, although I have not had an issue using the installer or gparted. I also note that PCLOS does not use parted, so what does it use?

EDIT: I see PCLOS also uses ntfsresize, so on that there should be no difference in reliability with using gparted.
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 05:42:19 AM »
Quote from: dvhenry on March 28, 2012, 02:46:11 AM
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Please seehttp://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,101292.0.htmlon dual booting with Windows 7.

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The 1st thing that I did was to download and install easeus partition master (free for home use)

Is there evidence that the PCLOS partitioning tool, or gparted has a problem with this on win7 ? (I've been lucky enough to have limited contact with win7, but no issues yet with Linux partitioning tools).


This part of my previous reply is for my own interest. The installer should offer to resize the partition. I note that parted/gparted recommend using the windows tools for the partition resize, although I have not had an issue using the installer or gparted. I also note that PCLOS does not use parted, so what does it use?

EDIT: I see PCLOS also uses ntfsresize, so on that there should be no difference in reliability with using gparted.


I don't think that there is any evidence that there is a problem with the PCLOS partitioning tool or with gparted .
I used easeus simply because it works well and is very easy to understand and use - especially for the user with little
experience/knowledge of Disk Partitioning, LIKE ME !  ;D
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2012, 07:18:38 PM »
Well that didn't work! I used the partition software that Ramchu used. Worked great, divided the disc and left it as free space. Ran the PCLinuxOS 2012 live cd. Installed correctly I guess. Install grub at MBR.  Reboot and got the grub screen, selected PCLOS the first time and got a black screen, no cursor just black. Rebooted and this time Grub stopped at GRUB and was waiting for some command. I couldn't boot to Windows 7 or PCLOS. I could type in Help at the grub prompt and got help text screen but I was lost after that. Looking at the disc configuration it created a /, home and swap in the free space but never got past the black screen. Ideas
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2012, 07:39:42 PM »
Quote from: jakesdad on March 28, 2012, 07:18:38 PM
Well that didn't work! I used the partition software that Ramchu used. Worked great, divided the disc and left it as free space. Ran the PCLinuxOS 2012 live cd. Installed correctly I guess. Install grub at MBR.  Reboot and got the grub screen, selected PCLOS the first time and got a black screen, no cursor just black. Rebooted and this time Grub stopped at GRUB and was waiting for some command. I couldn't boot to Windows 7 or PCLOS. I could type in Help at the grub prompt and got help text screen but I was lost after that. Looking at the disc configuration it created a /, home and swap in the free space but never got past the black screen. Ideas

When you saw the black screen, how long did you wait before you rebooted, and exactly how did you reboot?
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 04:38:22 PM »
OP I waited several minutes and had to reboot with the power button. I know it's not the best way. Why was grub not working after the first restart at installation? It should have been like it was the first time with the Plos and Win7 entries.
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2012, 04:55:06 PM »
Quote from: jakesdad on March 29, 2012, 04:38:22 PM
OP I waited several minutes and had to reboot with the power button. I know it's not the best way. Why was grub not working after the first restart at installation? It should have been like it was the first time with the Plos and Win7 entries.

The original black screen could have been a number of things, but the two most obvious would be wrong driver for the graphics card, and the use of the quiet parameter in the boot stanza. I delete the quiet parameter, and use splash=verbose so I can see the information the OS is providing to tell me what stage of the boot process the system is currently in. Boot splash screens may be pretty, but they hide all of the important information.

Having shut down with the reset button, it's very possible that the partition filesystem is now corrupted and needs repair, using the     fsck -fy /dev/<whatever>     command from a root terminal prompt using the liveCD.

Replace <whatever> with the proper designation for the partition being checked.
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2012, 05:21:02 PM »
jakesdad,
Can you give us the information as to what graphics card is in the Toshiba ?
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2012, 08:09:30 PM »
ATI Radeon HD 6310 Card. Everything works great with the Live CD The grub/booting thing is the big problem. I've installed PCLOS several times with dual boot XP but this is the first time I've had trouble.
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Re: Install on new Toshiba laptop
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2012, 08:57:05 PM »
have you tried the <RadeonHD 2000 and later ( radeon/fglrx)> driver
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