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Re: Help with VIA Intergrated Graphics Card Problem
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 07:51:37 AM »

Responding to the burn speed , that could be a good answer normally I burn ISO a 8x this time by accident I burnt the ISO at 24x maybe this caused a glitch. May try to download it again and burn it slower.

But as I mentioned before if it worked in the previous version I would have expected that it would have worked with the new version 2012, you don't go backwards only forwards isn't that right...... oh I forgot, another distro screwed its self with Unity..... well anyway thanks everyone. Lets hope that this can be solved cause I was really impressed with PCLinuxOS 2011.9 especially it ease of use.

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A bit more, by way of explanation. The images we produce are very highly compressed, allowing us to put approximately 2+ GB of data on a 700 MB CD. The slower one burns the image to disk the better the quality of the burn, and chance of a successful bit perfect burn. That is not to say a faster burn will always fail to be bit perfect, just that it's more likely.

We recommend one does an md5sum check of the image immediately after downloading, to be sure the image itself is bit perfect and uncorrupted by the d'/l process. If the md5sum check fails, the image itself is corrupted and a new download needs to be attempted.

If the image md5sum is correct, one can proceed to burn the image to disk at the recommended slowest speed possible for your hardware. (I burn my images to CD-RW disks at 4x speed)

Once burned, we also recommend doing an md5sum check of the burned disk, to assure it matches the md5sum of the d/l image, and is itself bit perfect. You can still do the md5sum check on your 2012.02 burned disk by placing it in the optical drive's tray, opening a terminal, and running the command;    md5sum /dev/cdrom

The result generated should be;    a226a2efb68f0cef4ae6dfe137f479ca  /dev/cdrom

If the number generated is anything other than the above, either the image download, the image burn, or both, failed.
 

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Re: Help with VIA Intergrated Graphics Card Problem
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 09:55:27 AM »
Thanks for that

Well I will download it again and this time burn the image to the cd at 4x not 24x.... maybe that is the problem.

But it is annoying, incidentally what would be a good graphics card to buy to install in an AGP slot . I do have PCI slots but I here that they are hard to find now days.

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Re: Help with VIA Intergrated Graphics Card Problem
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2012, 12:09:26 PM »
Thanks for that

Well I will download it again and this time burn the image to the cd at 4x not 24x.... maybe that is the problem.

But it is annoying, incidentally what would be a good graphics card to buy to install in an AGP slot . I do have PCI slots but I here that they are hard to find now days.

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Good AGP slot cards are hard to find these days, and you have to know which AGP slot you have. Check this link, in the section Compatibility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Graphics_Port

You need a card with the proper keying to your particular slot.

That said, both nVidia and ATI have dropped support for some of their earlier AGP slot cards recently, deeming them "end of life" so it's kind of a crap shoot. I found a new, still in the box, nVidia Ge-Force 6800 GT AGP slot card for my 2002 Compaq, which was given to me to strip parts from. The cost was US $50.00, but as it was my only cost for the entire machine, I bought it. That was about three years ago, and a capacitor blew after about 1 1/2 - 2 years use. That was common for all cards produced at the time, due to improper electrolyte used by one capacitor supplier to the industry. The on board GPU is no longer supported by nVidia, and I have not found a decent replacement for that card to date. Thus the following.

I recently rebuilt my main machine with a new MB, 4 core AMD CPU, and 16 GB DDR3 RAM. What I replaced was a MB with 2 core AMD CPU and 4GB DDR2 RAM. The new hardware combination was actually cheaper than that needed to upgrade the existing MB to the same CPU and RAM capacity.

My plan now, is to scrap the old Compaq AGP slot MB, and recycle that 2 core hardware into the Compaq case, (it's a very nice, well built case) making it a much faster unit with a, now standard, PCI-e video slot so any future video card replacement will no longer be a problem. Overall, this was the most economical way to upgrade my main machine and still have a usable backup machine, which the Compaq no longer was.

Don't give up on the on board VIA video just yet, we may yet get it working. If not, then look for a still supported in Linux AGP slot card. If that too proves to be a major problem, be prepared for a complete system upgrade.

Low cost AM3+ socket motherboards with DDR3 RAM and on board graphics, coupled with lower end 2 core AMD CPUs are very affordable, and will still be a vast improvement to what you have now. The biggest problem would be finding a MB with an IDE controller for your present hard drive. There are still some out there, but they are getting rarer these days. My present MB is SATA only, the older MB has only one IDE controller.

Most new boards that do have an IDE controller have only one, so only two IDE devices allowed. They usually have 4/6/8 SATA controllers available also, being as any future hard drive, or optical drive, purchases will surely be SATA drives. There are also, still available at reasonable cost, IDE controller (RAID) cards that fit PCI slots, should one be needed. I just purchased one for US $36.00 with 4 controller sockets for up to 8 IDE devices.

Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to push you toward something you don't want or need. It's just that I went through the whole thing of trying to keep the old hardware going, last November, and all things considered, (especially me being on a fixed income) it still proved more economical, and practical, to just abandon the hardware that was no longer properly supported, from both the hardware and software viewpoint. All of the above is just food for thought, before you spend any money for something that may not actually solve your immediate problem.
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Re: Help with VIA Intergrated Graphics Card Problem
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2012, 04:21:44 PM »
Thanks Old-Polack

I looked at the Wiki site and found that My Motherboard is PCI based with a AGP slot like this:

AGP 3.0   8×   octuple   2133   66   0.8

And yep your also right, why bother chasing hardware and the other stuff if I don't really use it.

I mainly use my PC for graphics, editing movies , Photography , music and watching movies. Without the full 3d acceleration the Linux OS that I am using now is incredible not one crash or hickup, unlike Windows. I have multiple tasks running and it is seamless. It was only by accident , when I tried to get Google Earth to run like I had it in Windows, no luck, after doing some investigating that is when I noticed that Opensuse 11.4 was running in what they call 2d Fallback mode.

So I began to search around and noticed that I lacked 3d acceleration for my VIA Graphics card. Well you can say I got obsessed trying to figure out how to get the 3d activated.

Well now after searching and downloading many Linux Distros I came across PCLinuxOS 2011.9 in KDE LIVE CD and wow, 3d acceleration.....and not only that it was a lot easier and friendlier for those who have just entered the world of Linux. And anyway I really don't need the 3D acceleration for what I do.

Now I am sure that I will install PCLinuxOS 2011.9 and keep this running for as long as I can until my finances are strong enough to either buy a new super computer with all the bells and whistles or keep my eye open for a second hand computer much more powerful than the one that I have.

Thanks everyone for your help, will let everyone know how the install goes and what happens if I upgrade to the new release. If it doesn't work it is always easy to back everythingh up and then format and install the old version again. Ain't linux great  ;)

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Re: Help with VIA Intergrated Graphics Card Problem
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2012, 07:44:50 PM »
GryphonOZ:

If you go ahead with that installation, you still need to do a complete upgrade before you can add any additional applications. Considering its age, there's a very good chance it may not upgrade properly, but because we've been a bit slow on upgrading the 32 bit repository while working on getting the 64 bit release ready, it just might work out fine. You won't know until you try. It will be a substantial upgrade for sure. If it works, and nothing breaks, be sure to run a complete upgrade at least every two weeks to minimize the chance of any one upgrade being anywhere close to the size of the original.

I upgrade whenever an upgrade is available, sometimes three times in a given day. Usually they are just one of two apps, sometimes maybe ten, but mostly only take a few minutes to do to be totally current with all my installed apps. What I'm currently running is the installation made from the original 2010 release, fully upgraded as stated throughout that time, and running still without any current issues.

I really do hope this works out for you.
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Re: Help with VIA Intergrated Graphics Card Problem
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2012, 10:42:34 PM »

It was only by accident , when I tried to get Google Earth to run like I had it in Windows, no luck, after doing some investigating that is when I noticed that Opensuse 11.4 was running in what they call 2d Fallback mode.


There used to be a "Google Earth lite" package in the repos, but I don't see it any more. You might try marble from the repos, until you get that super-duper rig.
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Re: Help with VIA Intergrated Graphics Card Problem
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2012, 05:38:15 AM »
Thanks for that djohnston

I will look up marble.

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Thanks, I am use to updating all the time, I found it keeps the system running tops .

So now I will install my new PCLinuxOS this weekend.

Thanks all