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Offline julianxu

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[Solved]Hardware Issue about NRP
« on: March 18, 2012, 07:57:57 AM »
This thread had been modified by Hootiegibbon's instructions, so it was not the original one!  ;)

Hi,Friends! :D
I am at the beginning of my learning curve of pclos and linux, so I have some questions to ask, any help is appreciated!


In my afore-thread, some friends suggested me to install pclos in HD,  and I want to follow this constructive advice. Because My two HDs are almost full, I think my only choice is to install pclos in another HD. In fact, I have a seagate 80G IDE disk. what I worry about  is my computer's Normal Rated Power (NRP) of power supply is 275W .I know HD would be damaged when it works with insufficient NRP power supply in a long period, especially in booting step, My specs is
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CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 2.5GHz
RAM: 4G DDR2 800MHz
Graphic : Nvidia GeForce 9300SE
HareDisk: Hitachi HDP725050GLA360
             Hitachi HDS721010CLA332
Motherboard: PEGATRON (Asus?) IPM31
Integreted NIC and sound card
CD-ROM is not attached

So My questions are:
1.1) Is it safety if I use three HDs with this 275W NRP power supply?
1.2) If I set disable to a HD in BIOS, does this HD not consume the power especially while computer booting,that is a equivalent of detaching this disk from motherboard? Is it a safe way to solve this issue?

« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 12:48:26 AM by julianxu »

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julianxu,

After the number of posts listed in your post-count I am pretty sure you have read this if you have not please read it

Questions should be broken down to one question to one thread.

Search for "poormans install" for the type of install method you mention above.

If you choose an alternate boot loader to that included (grub-legacy) the seek the answers at the appropriate site to that bootloader, the information you receive will probably be more current, and there probably is an answer waiting for you there, in general though - choose the appropriate dropdown to where you want the bootloader to install - you can then use your bootloader to chainload the OS into life 

Synaptic has a search function and a sections function, its really not that difficult to locate what you want, and yes it is thankfully very different from windows ;) and if you are already using KDE4 then you have qt4 libs bu default along with sqlite iirc.

Changing the wallpaper depends on the version, in KDE4 you just right click on the desktop and change the folder view options (in KDE4 everything in the user interface is seen as folders)

When posting, if you feel the need to have continued editing to the post, please write the post up in a text editor and when happy with it copy and paste to the forum.

In future can you use the one thread for one issue rule , as it allows a clear way for readers to see if your issue has been answered or not and makes for lighter reading too.

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julianxu,

After the number of posts listed in your post-count I am pretty sure you have read this if you have not please read it

Questions should be broken down to one question to one thread.

Search for "poormans install" for the type of install method you mention above.

If you choose an alternate boot loader to that included (grub-legacy) the seek the answers at the appropriate site to that bootloader, the information you receive will probably be more current, and there probably is an answer waiting for you there, in general though - choose the appropriate dropdown to where you want the bootloader to install - you can then use your bootloader to chainload the OS into life  

Synaptic has a search function and a sections function, its really not that difficult to locate what you want, and yes it is thankfully very different from windows ;) and if you are already using KDE4 then you have qt4 libs bu default along with sqlite iirc.

Changing the wallpaper depends on the version, in KDE4 you just right click on the desktop and change the folder view options (in KDE4 everything in the user interface is seen as folders)

When posting, if you feel the need to have continued editing to the post, please write the post up in a text editor and when happy with it copy and paste to the forum.

In future can you use the one thread for one issue rule , as it allows a clear way for readers to see if your issue has been answered or not and makes for lighter reading too.

Jase


OK,I will modify it right now! thank you for your reply and advice!
« Last Edit: March 18, 2012, 06:50:50 PM by julianxu »

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Re: Hardware Issue about NRP
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2012, 06:55:02 PM »
Hi,Friends! :D
I am at the beginning of my learning curve of pclos and linux, so I have some questions to ask, any help is appreciated!


In my afore-thread, some friends suggested me to install pclos in HD,  and I want to follow this constructive advice. Because My two HDs are almost full, I think my only choice is to install pclos in another HD. In fact, I have a seagate 80G IDE disk. what I worry about  is my computer's Normal Rated Power (NRP) of power supply is 275W .I know HD would be damaged when it works with insufficient NRP power supply in a long period, especially in booting step, My specs is
Code: [Select]
CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 2.5GHz
RAM: 4G DDR2 800MHz
Graphic : Nvidia GeForce 9300SE
HareDisk: Hitachi HDP725050GLA360
             Hitachi HDS721010CLA332
Motherboard: PEGATRON (Asus?) IPM31
Integreted NIC and sound card
CD-ROM is not attached

So My questions are:
1.1) Is it safety if I use three HDs with this 275W NRP power supply?
1.2) If I set disable to a HD in BIOS, does this HD not consume the power especially while computer booting,that is a equivalent of detaching this disk from motherboard? Is it a safe way to solve this issue?



Your power supply is a bit small, but I ran 7 hard drives on a machine that was up 24/7/365, with a 300 watt Antec PS for about 5 years. The 300 watt unit is still working now, in a machine with only two drives, and is 11 years old, so I can't see a real problem with 275 watts and 3 drives, if it's a well built quality PS. The only reason I replace that unit in my main machine was it had all the wrong connectors for my present all SATA machine.

Does your machine have the capability to choose, in BIOS, which hard drive is the boot drive, or is it an older BIOS that only accepts the master drive on the first controller as the boot drive?
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Re: Hardware Issue about NRP
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2012, 07:07:26 PM »
Hi,Friends! :D
I am at the beginning of my learning curve of pclos and linux, so I have some questions to ask, any help is appreciated!


In my afore-thread, some friends suggested me to install pclos in HD,  and I want to follow this constructive advice. Because My two HDs are almost full, I think my only choice is to install pclos in another HD. In fact, I have a seagate 80G IDE disk. what I worry about  is my computer's Normal Rated Power (NRP) of power supply is 275W .I know HD would be damaged when it works with insufficient NRP power supply in a long period, especially in booting step, My specs is
Code: [Select]
CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 2.5GHz
RAM: 4G DDR2 800MHz
Graphic : Nvidia GeForce 9300SE
HareDisk: Hitachi HDP725050GLA360
             Hitachi HDS721010CLA332
Motherboard: PEGATRON (Asus?) IPM31
Integreted NIC and sound card
CD-ROM is not attached

So My questions are:
1.1) Is it safety if I use three HDs with this 275W NRP power supply?
1.2) If I set disable to a HD in BIOS, does this HD not consume the power especially while computer booting,that is a equivalent of detaching this disk from motherboard? Is it a safe way to solve this issue?



Your power supply is a bit small, but I ran 7 hard drives on a machine that was up 24/7/365, with a 300 watt Antec PS for about 5 years. The 300 watt unit is still working now, in a machine with only two drives, and is 11 years old, so I can't see a real problem with 275 watts and 3 drives, if it's a well built quality PS. The only reason I replace that unit in my main machine was it had all the wrong connectors for my present all SATA machine.


Thank you OP! Your reply made me to make up my mind!  :D

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Does your machine have the capability to choose, in BIOS, which hard drive is the boot drive, or is it an older BIOS that only accepts the master drive on the first controller as the boot drive?

Yes, I can do that in BIOS.

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Re: Hardware Issue about NRP
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2012, 07:13:06 PM »
@ OP

Did you see this thread before I modified it,do you think the method I called "Install distro from hd partition" equals to poorman's install ?

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Re: Hardware Issue about NRP
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2012, 08:40:48 PM »

Does your machine have the capability to choose, in BIOS, which hard drive is the boot drive, or is it an older BIOS that only accepts the master drive on the first controller as the boot drive?

Yes, I can do that in BIOS.

Set your newly added hard drive as the boot drive when you install to it, without removing or disconnecting the other drives, and install grub to the MBR of that drive, if you can. You should be able to then boot all of your OS from that grub installation.

I'm not sure how you intend doing that installation, so if you have another thread that covers the installation method options, I'll continue there. Post a link in your next reply.
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Re: Hardware Issue about NRP
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2012, 12:45:22 AM »

Does your machine have the capability to choose, in BIOS, which hard drive is the boot drive, or is it an older BIOS that only accepts the master drive on the first controller as the boot drive?

Yes, I can do that in BIOS.

Set your newly added hard drive as the boot drive when you install to it, without removing or disconnecting the other drives, and install grub to the MBR of that drive, if you can. You should be able to then boot all of your OS from that grub installation.

I'm not sure how you intend doing that installation, so if you have another thread that covers the installation method options, I'll continue there. Post a link in your next reply.

Thank you OP, and I will mark this thread solved.