Installing/configuring a Kyocera laser printer

[Bill_Hwy]

I opened this topic a while back, but left everything hanging to update things.  I have a Kyocera FS1350DN that pclos does not have drivers for.  There are Kyoceras in the list, but not my model.  Following a suggestion from the forum, I tried installing a downloaded PPD file through CUPS, and I also tried it through PCC.  In both cases, it went through the motions of installing everything, but pclos still will not print.  Do I need to do some sort of configuring in pclos?? Anyone have any thoughts?? BTW I'm using 2012.02 now..

A suggestion for Texstar:  Why not add a small package to extract drivers from an OEM disk as Windows does??
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Bill H

[djohnston]

I opened this topic a while back, but left everything hanging to update things.  I have a Kyocera FS1350DN that pclos does not have drivers for.  There are Kyoceras in the list, but not my model.  Following a suggestion from the forum, I tried installing a downloaded PPD file through CUPS, and I also tried it through PCC.  In both cases, it went through the motions of installing everything, but pclos still will not print.  Do I need to do some sort of configuring in pclos?? Anyone have any thoughts?? BTW I'm using 2012.02 now..

Not enough info to go on. I believe you are referring to this post, in which you say:

Thanks, guys-- I haven't accomplished anything yet,  for some unknown reason, CUPS stopped taking my authentication before I got anything done, and I suspect the file is not in the exact format required.  But this gives me a way to go, so I'll keep working on it.  I'm going to do a clean reinstall shortly, and we'll see what happens then.. Thank you...

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Bill H

How about clueing us in? What steps have you taken, specifically? What PPD did you download? Was it from this page?

A suggestion for Texstar:  Why not add a small package to extract drivers from an OEM disk as Windows does??
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Bill H

If you are talking about extracting Windows drivers from an OEM CD, you won't be able to use those Windows drivers on a Linux installation.

[wedgetail]

Bill_Hwy
I have not checked closely yet but printers can be forgiving in what drivers they use. I accidentally saw the thread and the mention of starting with the single ppd file caught my attention.

From konsole Post the result of

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lpstat -t
This will tell me quite a bit about your system. 

[Bill_Hwy]

djohnston:
My system is an ASUS P7P55 m/b-Intel i3 560 CPU-4 gb RAM-two SATA HDDs-dual printers-multi-booting Win7,Mint 12 and pclos 2012.02. I downloaded the Linux version of the PPD from the Kyocera website.  I didn't need to load drivers for Win7, they were already there, and I haven't gotten around to trying Mint yet. But, It's been my experience that pclos does a better job of handling hardware than any other distro I've  "played" with; it has been my workhorse for 5 years or so.  The only steps I've taken are trying to get the ppd installed and working.

wedgetail:
Here's the post-not much there:
scheduler is running
system default destination: Kyocera-FS-1350DN
device for HP-Officejet-J3600-series: hp:/usb/Officejet_J3600_series?serial=CN9345N07Z053D
device for Kyocera-FS-1350DN: usb://Kyocera/FS-1350DN
HP-Officejet-J3600-series accepting requests since Sun 11 Mar 2012 11:09:06 AM MDT
Kyocera-FS-1350DN accepting requests since Wed 14 Mar 2012 08:12:57 AM MDT
printer HP-Officejet-J3600-series is idle.  enabled since Sun 11 Mar 2012 11:09:06 AM MDT
printer Kyocera-FS-1350DN now printing Kyocera-FS-1350DN-1.  enabled since Wed 14 Mar 2012 08:12:57 AM MDT
Kyocera-FS-1350DN-1     root              1024   Sun 11 Mar 2012 09:37:01 AM MDT

I don't keep the officejet turned on, I don't use it much--it's very slow for printing and it gobbles ink--I mostly use the scan, fax and copy functions.  Does this tell you anything?
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Bill H

[wedgetail]

Bill_Hwy

Here's the post-not much there: .....

Depends on how you look at it    to me it says:

1.. "scheduler is running"  this means CUPS is running, which is vital
2.. To my surprise you have set a default printer and it is Kyocera-FS-1350DN
3.. You have a printer queue, or printer: HP-Officejet-J3600-series
4.. This is connected as : hp:/usb/Officejet_J3600_series?serial=CN9345N07Z053D
5.. You have a printer queue, or printer:  Kyocera-FS-1350DN
6.. This is connected as : usb://Kyocera/FS-1350DN
7.. When you ran the lpstat -t the HP was idle, enabled and accepting jobs since a few days ago
8.. The Kyocera, probaly only turned on for the lpstat -t exercise, it is enabled and "root" has one job sitting in the queue waiting to be printed

Well it means you have successfully installed the Kyocera. I am not sure why you have a job waiting to be printed, why has it not been completed.

I am a big fan of HP printers but I am biased as I have spent a lifetime around those.  I have seen Kyocera printers in operation and the one you have is a beauty, I would have the model any day. At 32 pages per minute that is not slow. It is a black and white Laser printer which has duplex (printing both sides)  and network comprehensive connection ability the only thing one could wish for is bigger sheet size. The A3 size handy for CAD printing but the whole printer grows bigger then.  

The use of the hp officejet J3600 as you describe should be fine. I was given a hp all in one when the owners had to buy ink it was cheaper to buy a new printer, and since they would have to pay the dump fee to take the old one they were more than happy to give it to me for free.

The printer driver you have is quite suitable for your Kyocera.  I have checked most of the driver options against the specifications.  If you can't print that is a mystery to be revealed.

More info needed then and I want to see the command line prompt, forgot to specitfy that in my previous post, that is important.

[root@KDE-mini gert]# lpoptions -p Kyocera-FS-1350DN

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[root@KDE-mini gert]#lpoptions -p Kyocera-FS-1350DN -l
I have highlighted in red what I want to see from your system this will look different but tells me what work space you are in.

Do the following simple test print as well, that may tell me something too even if the printer does not spit out the page followed immediately by lpstat -t. Then post the result of the two lines

[gert@KDE-mini-Cprog ~]$ lp -d Kyocera-FS-1350DN  /usr/share/printer-testpages/testpage.asc

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[gert@KDE-mini-Cprog ~]$ lpstat -t

[Bill_Hwy]

wedgetail:

So, apparently it did install the PPD, but now what???

Here are the latest results:

[root@localhost ~]# lpoptions -p Kyocera-FS-1350DN -l
Option8/Paper Feeders: None *One Two
Option18/Optional Disk: *None RAMDisk
InstalledMemory/Memory: *128MB 256MB 384MB 640MB 1152MB
Resolution/Resolution: 300dpi *600dpi 1200dpi
KCEcoprint/EcoPrint: *Off On
Smoothing/KIR: None *Medium
PagePolicy/Page Policy: *On
PageSize/Media Size: A4 A5 A6 B5 ISOB5 B6 OficioII Folio Statement P16K *Letter Legal Executive EnvPersonal Env9 Env10 EnvMonarch EnvDL EnvC5 Custom.WIDTHxHEIGHT
InputSlot/Media Source: *Internal PF100A PF100B MF1
MediaType/Media Type: PrnDef Auto *Plain Transparency Labels Letterhead Bond Color Preprinted Prepunched Recycled Cardstock Vellum Envelope Rough Thick Highqlty User1 User2 User3 User4 User5 User6 User7 User8
Duplex/Duplexing: *None DuplexTumble DuplexNoTumble
KCCollate/Job Settings: *PrnDef On None
KCSuperWatermark/Super Watermark: *None UFA UFB UFC UFAFP UFBFP UFCFP SFA SFB SFC
KCVersion/PPD Version: *Default
[root@localhost ~]# lp -d Kyocera-FS-1350DN /usr/share/printer-testpages/testpage.asc
request id is Kyocera-FS-1350DN-2 (1 file(s))
[root@localhost ~]# lpstat -t
scheduler is running
system default destination: Kyocera-FS-1350DN
device for HP-Officejet-J3600-series: hp:/usb/Officejet_J3600_series?serial=CN9345N07Z053D
device for Kyocera-FS-1350DN: usb://Kyocera/FS-1350DN
HP-Officejet-J3600-series accepting requests since Sun 11 Mar 2012 11:09:06 AM MDT
Kyocera-FS-1350DN accepting requests since Wed 14 Mar 2012 08:46:05 PM MDT
printer HP-Officejet-J3600-series is idle.  enabled since Sun 11 Mar 2012 11:09:06 AM MDT
printer Kyocera-FS-1350DN now printing Kyocera-FS-1350DN-1.  enabled since Wed 14 Mar 2012 08:46:05 PM MDT
Kyocera-FS-1350DN-1     root              1024   Sun 11 Mar 2012 09:37:01 AM MDT
Kyocera-FS-1350DN-2     root              1024   Wed 14 Mar 2012 09:16:31 PM MDT
[root@localhost ~]#

[wedgetail]

Bill_Hwy

You did not do the result of the big red line? I did not make the comment I normally do, the the two first statements are not the same, they look bar the -l in the second. Anyway I would like to see that too.

Do not worry yet I think it is a simple problem but of course I can not see your system, I will have to use some logic and do a bit of guessing.  At this stage don't mess around with PCC until I am finished with you  

Copy paste this in your web browser choice, and bookmark it or whatever but so it is available instantly when you need it.

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http://localhost:631
On the top meny line towards the right you will see PRINTERS click here >

You will now see two lines of printers:

HP-Officejet-J3600-series
Kyocera-FS-1350DN

Carefully copy paste those two printer lines in full, it can be done, not the standard thing but I am in a bit of hurry.

Then click on the Kyocera-FS-1350DN new page open showing what is queing.  If you see the Kyocera-FS-1350DN-1 line at the right hand side giving a reason why it is not printing, then delete that line, the second if there is no problem will spit out. I only give this a 50/50 chance.

The important thing for me is the copy/paste above.

[Bill_Hwy]

wedgetail:

The results from the red line:

[root@localhost ~]# lpoptions -p Kyocera-FS-1350DN
auth-info-required=none copies=1 device-uri=usb://Kyocera/FS-1350DN finishings=3 job-hold-until=no-hold job-priority=50 job-sheets=none,none marker-change-time=0 number-up=1 printer-commands=AutoConfigure,Clean,PrintSelfTestPage printer-info='Kyocera FS-1350DN' printer-is-accepting-jobs=true printer-is-shared=false printer-location=localhost.localdomain printer-make-and-model='Kyocera FS-1350DN (KPDL)' printer-state=4 printer-state-change-time=1331820231 printer-state-reasons=none printer-type=10653780 printer-uri-supported=ipp://localhost:631/printers/Kyocera-FS-1350DN
[root@localhost ~]#

And the results from the CUPS entry:

HP-Officejet-J3600-series   HP Officejet J3600 series   localhost.localdomain   HP Officejet j3600 Series, hpcups 3.11.10   Idle
Kyocera-FS-1350DN   Kyocera FS-1350DN   localhost.localdomain   Kyocera FS-1350DN (KPDL)   Processing

[wedgetail]

Bill_Hwy
The data is fine, I see what I want to see here.

Then click on the Kyocera-FS-1350DN new page open showing what is queing.  If you see the Kyocera-FS-1350DN-1 line at the right hand side giving a reason why it is not printing, then delete that line, the second if there is no problem will spit out. I only give this a 50/50 chance.

Right, now do above, when you click on the second line you should see 2 jobs etc ...  I am taking a guess but delete/cancel job 1 and see if job 2 prints.

In what directory have you placed the Kyocera ppd file ?  I may want to install another printer queue which I can do if I know where you placed the driver.

[Bill_Hwy]

I have no idea where the system installed the PPD file--the unzipped .ppd is in /home/bill/temp as Kyocera_FS-1350DN.PPD..  Going back through CUPS/printers, etc., there are no jobs listed at all, but when there were jobs, deleting the early one did not allow the other to print..  What do you see as being the problem???

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Bill H

[wedgetail]

Bill_Hwy
This file /home/bill/temp/Kyocera_FS-1350DN.PPD is only used once when you install a 'printer' or printer queue but it is vital.  A you can call it a customised copy of this file made for actual use by the printer queue, don't worry about that one, I know where it is on your system and the name.

However please confirm the position where you say the file is located, konsole do:

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ls -l /home/bill/temp/Kyocera_FS-1350DN.PPD
When I need to use it there must be no mistakes  

At the moment I don't know where your problem is, but your situation is quite common when problems do occur. I am just going very slow so I don't have to backtrack as you can see it is taking its time and you don't want to back and forwards.  My guess is that it is a very simply problem, almost like the power is not on ( but we know it is so don't go chasing this) one thing I have forgotten to ask you, what do you see on the printers panel? Any message like 'change paper size' would be disappointed if there was.  

Need confirmation that there are stuck jobs, post:

lpstat -o

The stuck job I am expecting, find this by:

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ls -1 /var/spool/cups
This should be a very short list and one line starting with d, post that line and any others starting with d

In my case here testing your similar setup:

d00054-001

Use your found number, which is the name of the temp file needing to go to the printer, and replace your number with the one in the line below (which is from my system):

cat /var/spool/cups/d00054-001

You should get this:

If this is all you see, try enabling 'LF->CR/LF' translation in printtool...
Line 2, Column 1                                               Line 2, Column 80




                           This is the Linux

                                ASCII  Test Page




           If you see this text, check that these exclamation marks line up:

                   The ! exclamation ! marks ! in this ! line !
                should !  line up    ! with  ! these   ! too  !

           If the lines do not match up then try enabling 'LF->CR/LF'

          If this page did not eject automatically, try enabling 'Send EOF'.

Ignore the two lines at the end until you have a piece of paper in your hand, unlikely to require any action anyway. This is a standard CUPS testing page found on all installations, I am using this because it is the same for everybody.

Only if you get a different result, then post.

Added: Just noticed that I have not asked getting details of:

lpinfo -v

[Bill_Hwy]

wedgetail:

In answer to your question; I don't see anything on the printer panel--it doesn't even light up, the printer might as well not be turned on..

The latest posts:

root@localhost ~]# ls -l /home/bill/Temp/Kyocera_FS-1350DN.PPD
-rwxrwxrwx 1 bill bill 36961 Sep 25  2008 /home/bill/Temp/Kyocera_FS-1350DN.PPD*
[root@localhost ~]# lpstat -o
Kyocera-FS-1350DN-4     root              1024   Fri 16 Mar 2012 09:31:20 AM MDT
Kyocera-FS-1350DN-7     bill             67584   Fri 16 Mar 2012 09:36:06 AM MDT
[root@localhost ~]# ls -1 /var/spool/cups
c00004
c00007
d00004-001
d00007-001
tmp/
[root@localhost~]# cat /var/spool/cups/d00004-001
#CUPS-BANNER
Show printer-name printer-info printer-location printer-make-and-model printer-driver-name printer-driver-version paper-size imageable-area
Header Printer Test Page
Footer Printer Test Page
Notice This test page was produced by CUPS 1.4.6.
Image images/cups.png
Image images/color-wheel.png

[root@localhost ~]# lpinfo -v
network beh
network ipp
network http
network lpd
direct scsi
direct pdf
direct hp
network socket
network smb
direct hpfax
[root@localhost ~]#

[wedgetail]

Bill_Hwy

Hmmm, not what I expected, does not sound right. The information from lpinfo -v as well as the no light in the panel indicates to me that the printer is not turned on.

Above the the local printer panel, do you have 3 status indicators (LEDs) and the left one <Ready> is lit up?

Appears there was/are two pages in the print queue, I was a bit ahead of myself then, the one I was after was now probably the d00007-001.   For the exercise you can do a
 

cat /var/spool/cups/d00007-001

This second file may agree with what I listed in my previous post.  What you have in the first file in the queue d00007-004 looks like a printer test page requested by CUPS, that is fine as this is the normal way to test that a new printer installation actually does work.

You did not say which printer test page you saw in the d00004-001 file??

I must have been meant to forget about the lpinfo -v until late, normally one of the first things after lpstat -t that is essential to know about.  In this case what happened I actually went and dug out my hp-psc-1200-series USB printer and connected via USB cable  as local printer.  Normally I run Network printer connections ie via a LAN cable.  It was first at this stage I noticed that I had not asked for you details here. (Since your Kyocera FS-1350DN also can work as a network printer I would recommend using the network connection if you have a LAN system, then any pc on the LAN can use it )

What I learned was that probably most USB connected printers will only show properly here if power is on. Your hp is not shown either but you have explained that it is normally not powered up.

[Bill_Hwy]

Wedgetail:

The Kyocera goes into a sleep mode when it is inactive for some time, but any print request "wakes" it immediately.  The 'ready' light goes out too.  It apparently has considerable computer functions in its own circuitry.  It can do all sorts of things under Windows control.  I don't know about Linux, I haven't really looked at the PPD carefully.

The d00004-001 was a test page sent from PCC, and the d00007-001 was just a short page I was using for a test with Openoffice Writer. I just ran the cat thing on that and I don't think the moderators would like it if I posted the results from that. It would take more pages than we've used already.  I don't know how such a short message could produce all those pages.

Anyway, give it some thought and if you come up with anything let me know.  I'll keep fiddling here--I haven't tried an ethernet connection because there is no LAN involved, but this printer may have been on a network in the place I got it from.  Thank you for all the work you have put into this, not many people would have done that much.
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Bill H

[djohnston]

Bill,

You need to PM wedgetail your email address. You don't want spammers getting hold of it.