problem update after install

[Neal ManBear]

Nippur,     
In one post you report a successful install of gtk-doc. In the next you are trying to remove it. Why?      
Reread my posts. I said if the install fails, try the remove.      

Did you run apt-get install dblatex first?     

Hi.  Yes I did, followed step by step instructions.

     
You may think so, but you did not.

I ran install gtk-doc and then tried to update via synaptic and got the same error as always, so I understood  I should run

the last command to remove gtk-doc.

     
You did not understand. Let me explain. The word if is a powerful condition setter. Using it, I set the condition that the apt-get remove command should be used if the apt-get install command failed. As you posted that the apt-get install command succeeded, there was no need for the apt-get remove command.     
You totally and absolutely misread what I wrote. You either ignored the if (conditional) statement or treated it as an and statement. Though how you could see "if that fails" as the word "and", I do not know.

After this I have been able to fully update without errors via synaptic. 

I now have robooted and cannot login with my user nor as root. What can I do?
Thx Neal

     
  The problem is that after successfully installing gtk-doc, you decided that you were to remove it. When removing it, you also removed your DE. Look at your post. You were told that you would be removing XFCE and asked if you wanted to continue. You chose yes. You made the decision to remove your DE. Why? How could you think that would help?     

[Nippur]

go to ... etc/apt/ and delete the preferences file ... this is currently holding back the clipman and weather plugin ... these have now been updated ... so you can remove that file and Synaptic will run fine again

How do I do this if I get the message that "your session has last less than 10 sec" and cannot login?

[Nippur]

Nippur,     
In one post you report a successful install of gtk-doc. In the next you are trying to remove it. Why?      
Reread my posts. I said if the install fails, try the remove.      

Did you run apt-get install dblatex first?     

Hi.  Yes I did, followed step by step instructions.

     
You may think so, but you did not.

I ran install gtk-doc and then tried to update via synaptic and got the same error as always, so I understood  I should run

the last command to remove gtk-doc.

     
You did not understand. Let me explain. The word if is a powerful condition setter. Using it, I set the condition that the apt-get remove command should be used if the apt-get install command failed. As you posted that the apt-get install command succeeded, there was no need for the apt-get remove command.     
You totally and absolutely misread what I wrote. You either ignored the if (conditional) statement or treated it as an and statement. Though how you could see "if that fails" as the word "and", I do not know.

After this I have been able to fully update without errors via synaptic. 

I now have robooted and cannot login with my user nor as root. What can I do?
Thx Neal

     
  The problem is that after successfully installing gtk-doc, you decided that you were to remove it. When removing it, you also removed your DE. Look at your post. You were told that you would be removing XFCE and asked if you wanted to continue. You chose yes. You made the decision to remove your DE. Why? How could you think that would help?     

Well.... I screwed. Any possible solution besides reinstalling?

[Nippur]

basically no .... reboot to prompt (safe mode) type su ,,, then type apt-get install task-xfce4 task-xfce4-plugins .... this should restore your desktop ...

I'm having a little trouble.
Can I reinstall without touching grub as I have other partitions with w7 on them?
Thx

[pep369]

I come back, sorry, I was working...

apt-get install gtk-doc     
feedback?     

if fail ---     
apt-get remove gtk-doc     
feedback?     

[root@localhost pep]# apt-get install gtk-doc
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 removed and 41 not upgraded.
Need to get 455kB of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
Get:1 http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/main gtk-doc 1.18-1pclos2011 [455kB]
Fetched 455kB in 0s (643kB/s)   
Committing changes...
Preparing                                ############################## [100%]
Updating / installing
  gtk-doc-1.18-1pclos2011.noarch         ############################## [100%]
Done.
[root@localhost pep]#

[pep369]

why are you not updating those additional 41 updates?

Because synaptic says:

E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
 
and...

Could not apply changes!
Fix broken packages first.

But I can't fix broken packages...

thanks a lot!

[smileeb]

I'm having the same problem, only I went further and got a computer that won't boot to the
OS, just kept bring you back to sign in screen. Hope for a quick fix on the reinstall.

Updated version 2011-07.iso which was on the hard drive. The update
deleted 44 files which prevent phoenix from running. It claims gtk-doc
is broken I think, and needs these files removed.
dblatex
xfec with endings battery
     clipman, dict, diskperf, eyes,feguard, modemlights, mount, notes,
     quicklauncher, smartbookmark, systemload, time-out, timer, verve,
     wavelan, wmdock, xfapplet, xmltex, config, cpugraph, datetime,
     icon-theme, mixer, panel, panel-devel, screenshooter, session,
     session-devel, weather, xfswitch,  ( Some of these have -plugin
     after them )
libxfce4ui-devel, libxfce4util-devel, orage, task-xfce,
thunar with endings thumbnailers,
       ffmpeg, raw, vfs, volman
xfbum, gtk-doc

After all these were removed and I rebooted it got me to a sign in
screen which gave me a red watch, a box about 10 sec view and a
continuous cycle of the red watch and etc everytime I tried to reboot.

I reinstalled phoenix 2012-02.iso and did the updates and got the same
problem all over again. I now have a computer that was running phoenix
untill the update and now it can't run the latest verion and the
updates do the same to that as the older version.


**I tried the of broken repair with the terminal which is posted below.

[smileeb@localhost ~]$ su
Password:
[root@localhost smileeb]# apt-get --fix-broken install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded.
[root@localhost smileeb]# apt-ger cleant
bash: apt-ger: command not found
[root@localhost smileeb]# apt-get clean
[root@localhost smileeb]# apt-get auto-clean
E: Invalid operation auto-clean
[root@localhost smileeb]# apt-get autoclean
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
[root@localhost smileeb]# apt-get update
Get:1 http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010 release [2883B]
Fetched 2883B in 0s (8535B/s)
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/main pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/main release
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/updates pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/updates release
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/nonfree pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/nonfree release
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/kde4 pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/kde4 release
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/games pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/games release
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/xfce4 pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/xfce4 release
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
[root@localhost smileeb]# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Failed
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  gtk-doc: Depends: dblatex
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
caused by held packages.
[root@localhost smileeb]#

[smileeb@localhost ~]$ su
Password:
[root@localhost smileeb]# apt-get update
Get:1 http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010 release [2883B]
Fetched 2883B in 0s (9979B/s)
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/main pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/main release
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/updates pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/updates release
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/nonfree pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/nonfree release
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/kde4 pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/kde4 release
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/games pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/games release
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/xfce4 pkglist
Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/2010/xfce4 release
Reading Package Lists... Done                   
Building Dependency Tree... Done

**
[root@localhost smileeb]# apt-get --fix-broken install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded.
[root@localhost smileeb]# apt-get --fix-broken remove
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded.
[root@localhost smileeb]#

[pep369]

open terminal as root and run apt-get --fix-broken install .... that will resolve any dependencies that are missing ... i have a full updated system on both Phoenix and Phinx and have not experienced this ...

terminal says:

[pep@localhost ~]$ su
Password:
[root@localhost pep]# apt-get --fix-broken install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 41 not upgraded.
[root@localhost pep]#

[monsee]

Me too have a similar issue: in my fresh Phinx Edition 2011 installation I tried to attempt a update (using Synaptic: I don't like at all using Terminal) and I see the same story I had see some days ago on my others PCLinuxOS (32 bit) installations (on LXDE edition, on LXDE-mini Edition, on Phoenix Ediution and on ZEN-mini Edition). I have solved that problems using Synaptic. That was more simple in my LXDE and LXDE-mini Edition, a little more difficult on ZEN-mini Edition and a little more "more difficult" in my Phoenix Edition. My problem born from a difficult about Texlive package (in all cases). I have solved uninstalling (using Synaptic) my Tetex related (and also Tetex) packages and -after- install the Texlive package and some related packages. In all cases, I have lost some packages (that was uninstalled and that I cannot re-install due a message error: Pari and Pari-data).
Today, I have read this thread... and install Phinx to see if I can help in your problem solving (I think -maybe- to help because I have solving similar issue on my other PCLinuxOS installations, but -obviusly- I'm not sure of me).
Everytime, when I solve the problems I first put the Heanet Repository instead of my standard Repository (that's the GARR [Naples] Repository, because I'm italian).
I don't knows if that was good or bad, but (in my opinion) it can be a "first step" to potential solution. So, I suggest to put the Headnet as Repository, for now...
After this, I try to repair the broken package (that was "texlive", in my past story) and fail. So, I select the "broken package" to "totally remove" it. In one my ijnstallation, also this fail: there was TWO "broken packages": when the "texlive" package fail, I select other package... and all 2 packages disappear!
After I attempt to install some packages that I like to use (Kile, LyX and others). Some my attempt fail, some other was good. All attempt was using Synaptic, of course.
Now, I have my PCLinuxOS without updating problems... and I have lost some packages only (Pari and 3 or 4 others).
But this story (this thread issue) is a bit different.
I see that the "broken package" is NON "texlive" but "gtk-doc". And the problem-sorce can be some struggle between the "tumbler" package and the "libtumbler1_0" package.
I have removed the "preference file" in the APT folder (in /etc/apt), but this escamotage don't solve at all...
There is a problem coinvolving the "tumbler" package update and the "libtumbler1_0" package update that is the real sorce of our problems.
That problem is also related to "gtk-doc" package.
I suspect some "tetex" package is involving in this matter, but I have no proof of it...
I hope my little experiments can be useful to you. Thank you very much!

[monsee]

Maybe I have solved (my Synaptic is working good, now), but I have lost some XFCE4 applet and otherXFCE4 packages...
In this moment I'm updating. After that I try to reboot and see if I have my System or not (if my desktop there is or it's waste...)
Some minutes, and I come back to tell you the whole story...

... and maybe not!
I have lost the desktop. Me too, after login see a little windows that tell me that my session is ended in 10 second....
But if I NOT cose that little window, the System stay. And it is possible to lauch all applications (Midori and Synaptic inclused). I am using Midori, now... without a desktop.
What happens?
I have uninstalled the Tetex package. With it, many other packages was uninstalled. Thunar also!
XFCE was nearly uninstalled.
I can, in this moment, reinstall ALL (using Synaptic from my "ghost-desktop"), but that operation re-install the tetex package too and all packages that was (before) the source of problems...

Now I try to see if this way go somewhere....

[monsee]

I have re-installed (but I have not reboot, now) successfully using Synaptic.
There is a problem, of course: Synaptic require 2 packages uninstallation... but that uninstallation cannot be performed due the "gtk-doc" package that's "broken" and cannot be repared anyway...
Now I reboot to see if my desktop is really back...

I had back my desktop, but problem was not-solved: I cannot install Kile (strange thing: I have installed Kile on my Phoenix installation; wy not on my Phinx installation?) and I cannot install Pari.
More: Synaptic tell me to need unistall dblatex and an other package, but I cannot uninstall due the "gtk-doc" package that is broken and cannot repair...
If I try to unistall gtk-doc, my desktop (all the XFCE4 desktop) suddenly disappear! (it is uninstalled)
If I stay, Synaptic cry to unistall the 2 packages...

An other question (little, but important for me): my cursor theme don't change at all. I have selected the oxygen-white cursor theme... and I can see it, but only whe I have opened (and I'm using) Firefox or Seamonkey or Opera... I cannot see the oxygen-white theme when cursor is on desktop or when I'm using Midori... Strange thing, in my opinion.

[Texstar]

open terminal as root and run apt-get --fix-broken install .... that will resolve any dependencies that are missing ... i have a full updated system on both Phoenix and Phinx and have not experienced this ...

i would not advise removing gtk-doc  ... as that will take most of your XFCE4 desktop with it ...

as for dblatex this can be installed using apt-get install dblatex command ... i dont understand why you are all removing gtk-doc ...

The texlive package upgrade is breaking everything associated and dependent upon tetex. Something is way wrong with that upgraded package.

[Nippur]

Hi.
I'm at my mother's with her old P4 running xfce 4.8 and have the same issue. 

I'm not changing anything on this one till we have a definitive solution to this.

[pep369]

Hi Monsee, thanks for your explanation! the end of my way is the same than yours

Maybe I have solved Imy Synaptic is working good, now), but I have lost some XFCE4 applet and otherXFCE4 packages...
In this moment I'm updating. After that I try to reboot and see if I have my System or not (if my desktop there is or it's waste...)
Some minutes, and I come back to tell you the whole story...

... and maybe not!
I have lost the desktop. Me too, after login see a little windows that tell me that my session is ended in 10 second....

[Neal ManBear]

Rebuilt texlive and sent to repos. Keep your fingers crossed.