Author Topic: [Resolved]I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?  (Read 5543 times)

Offline julianxu

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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #150 on: March 12, 2012, 08:57:57 AM »
My mistake. I missed your reply. Also my mistake, the user-agent string needs quoting.

Try wget -SO- -U 'Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/4.6; Linux) KHTML/4.6.5 (like Gecko)' http://www.pclinuxos.com/.



Do you think #147 is useful? It is 23:00,so I have to leave.Please leave me your instructions,my mentor!
I will do them tomorrow,see you ;)

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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #151 on: March 12, 2012, 09:30:39 AM »
OK. It appears wget does not download the HTML if it gets an error status response, so that's why you're not seeing any output there. It's not being treated differently. It just behaves differently.

So whatever responds sends the test page along with a 403 Forbidden response when accessed directly, or the Test page could be cached content saved somewhere en route or even at the browser. I take it you have reloaded the page, with Ctrl+F5, just to make sure...

The only question is whether that something's the server or not, and only the access and error logs can tell us that. If it is the server, then there is a configuration denying access somewhere. It's not in the .htaccess file, so it would probably be in the /etd/httpd/ configuration files. If it isn't the server, it's either an upstream router or proxy also running Apache on CentOS (possibly at the hosting company) or a network problem.

There's nothing more we can do now. We've got all the data except for a definitive answer on the logs. If it's at the server or hosting company it might be possible to do something about it or not, depending on the administrators and the hosting company. If it's a network problem then it's outside everyone's control and we're stuck with it.
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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #152 on: March 12, 2012, 07:14:31 PM »
OK. It appears wget does not download the HTML if it gets an error status response, so that's why you're not seeing any output there. It's not being treated differently. It just behaves differently.

So whatever responds sends the test page along with a 403 Forbidden response when accessed directly, or the Test page could be cached content saved somewhere en route or even at the browser. I take it you have reloaded the page, with Ctrl+F5, just to make sure...

The only question is whether that something's the server or not, and only the access and error logs can tell us that. If it is the server, then there is a configuration denying access somewhere. It's not in the .htaccess file, so it would probably be in the /etd/httpd/ configuration files. If it isn't the server, it's either an upstream router or proxy also running Apache on CentOS (possibly at the hosting company) or a network problem.

There's nothing more we can do now. We've got all the data except for a definitive answer on the logs. If it's at the server or hosting company it might be possible to do something about it or not, depending on the administrators and the hosting company. If it's a network problem then it's outside everyone's control and we're stuck with it.



Hi, kjpetrie! A new day,I am struggling to "digest" your advice ;)

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So whatever responds sends the test page along with a 403 Forbidden response when accessed directly, or the Test page could be cached content saved somewhere en route or even at the browser. I take it you have reloaded the page, with Ctrl+F5, just to make sure...

Not only had I done "ctrl+F5",but also I had cleaned up caches , history records and so on in both FireFox and IE.Then I visited www.pclinuxos.com and http://199.231.58.82/ ,no good results  :'(

I attempted to use "ipconfig/displaydns" this command, and got some outputs(I paste the informations only related to pclinuxos,I think so,at least):
Code: [Select]
[url=http://www.pclinuxos.com]www.pclinuxos.com[/url]

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No records of type AAAA


[url=http://www.pclinuxos.com]www.pclinuxos.com[/url]
----------------------------------------
Record Name . . . . . : [url=http://www.pclinuxos.com]www.pclinuxos.com[/url]

Record Type . . . . . : 1

Time To Live  . . . . : 9

Data Length . . . . . : 4

Section . . . . . . . : Answer

A (Host) Record . . . : 199.231.58.82

THis is another "ipconfig/displaydns" after I modified the "hosts" file under winXP:
Code: [Select]
http://www.pclinuxos.com/

         ----------------------------------------

         Record Name . . . . . : http://www.pclinuxos.com/

         Record Type . . . . . : 1

         Time To Live  . . . . : 596335

         Data Length . . . . . : 4

         Section . . . . . . . : Answer

         A (Host) Record . . . : 199.231.58.82





         1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa

         ----------------------------------------

         Record Name . . . . . : 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa.

         Record Type . . . . . : 12

         Time To Live  . . . . : 596335

         Data Length . . . . . : 4

         Section . . . . . . . : Answer

         PTR Record  . . . . . : localhost





         http://www.pclinuxos.com

         ----------------------------------------

         Record Name . . . . . : http://www.pclinuxos.com

         Record Type . . . . . : 1

         Time To Live  . . . . : 596335

         Data Length . . . . . : 4

         Section . . . . . . . : Answer

         A (Host) Record . . . : 199.231.58.82





         [url=http://www.pclinuxos.com]www.pclinuxos.com[/url]

         ----------------------------------------

         Record Name . . . . . : [url=http://www.pclinuxos.com]www.pclinuxos.com[/url]

         Record Type . . . . . : 1

         Time To Live  . . . . : 596335

         Data Length . . . . . : 4

         Section . . . . . . . : Answer

         A (Host) Record . . . : 199.231.58.82





         [url=http://www.pclinuxos.com]www.pclinuxos.com[/url]

         ----------------------------------------

         No records of type AAAA





         82.58.231.199.in-addr.arpa

         ----------------------------------------

         Record Name . . . . . : 82.58.231.199.in-addr.arpa.

         Record Type . . . . . : 12

         Time To Live  . . . . : 596335

         Data Length . . . . . : 4

         Section . . . . . . . : Answer

         PTR Record  . . . . . : [url=http://www.pclinuxos.com]www.pclinuxos.com[/url]





         Record Name . . . . . : 82.58.231.199.in-addr.arpa.

         Record Type . . . . . : 12

         Time To Live  . . . . : 596335

         Data Length . . . . . : 4

         Section . . . . . . . : Answer

         PTR Record  . . . . . : pclinuxos.com





         Record Name . . . . . : 82.58.231.199.in-addr.arpa.

         Record Type . . . . . : 12

         Time To Live  . . . . : 596335

         Data Length . . . . . : 4

         Section . . . . . . . : Answer

         PTR Record  . . . . . : http://www.pclinuxos.com





         Record Name . . . . . : 82.58.231.199.in-addr.arpa.

         Record Type . . . . . : 12

         Time To Live  . . . . : 596335

         Data Length . . . . . : 4

         Section . . . . . . . : Answer

         PTR Record  . . . . . : http://www.pclinuxos.com/

pclinuxos.com

         ----------------------------------------

         Record Name . . . . . : pclinuxos.com

         Record Type . . . . . : 1

         Time To Live  . . . . : 596335

         Data Length . . . . . : 4

         Section . . . . . . . : Answer

         A (Host) Record . . . : 199.231.58.82

httpd.apache.org

         ----------------------------------------

         No records of type AAAA





         httpd.apache.org

         ----------------------------------------

         Record Name . . . . . : httpd.apache.org

         Record Type . . . . . : 1

         Time To Live  . . . . : 1008

         Data Length . . . . . : 4

         Section . . . . . . . : Answer

         A (Host) Record . . . : 140.211.11.131





         [url=http://www.centos.org]www.centos.org[/url]

         ----------------------------------------

         No records of type AAAA





         [url=http://www.centos.org]www.centos.org[/url]

         ----------------------------------------

         Record Name . . . . . : [url=http://www.centos.org]www.centos.org[/url]

         Record Type . . . . . : 1

         Time To Live  . . . . : 15

         Data Length . . . . . : 4

         Section . . . . . . . : Answer

         A (Host) Record . . . : 72.232.194.162

I have no idea of whether it is useful.So what is your opinion and other friends' ?
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 08:13:07 PM by julianxu »

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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #153 on: March 14, 2012, 04:34:34 AM »
I am still alive,this is the only thing I can say at this time ;D

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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #154 on: March 14, 2012, 04:53:47 AM »
I am still alive,this is the only thing I can say at this time ;D
     
Don't die. Stay alive. Okay? :D     

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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #155 on: March 14, 2012, 05:51:40 AM »
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I know what you said before about it, and probably you are right, but if it was my setup, I would install on a HD, just to eliminate that one in a million chance.

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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #156 on: March 14, 2012, 08:07:13 AM »
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I know what you said before about it, and probably you are right, but if it was my setup, I would install on a HD, just to eliminate that one in a million chance.



Good advice must be followed,I do promise I will :D
But not recently,because I have a lot of games and videos,their bulks are huge,and I have to give them a new home ;D
The price of a new disk is expensive recently,right? let me pray... ::)

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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #157 on: March 14, 2012, 08:10:34 AM »
I am still alive,this is the only thing I can say at this time ;D
     
Don't die. Stay alive. Okay? :D     
This is the first time that you play joke with me,I feel well very much :D
I should keep alive for a long long time,if I do not meet a bear!  ;D

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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #158 on: March 14, 2012, 11:21:21 AM »

Back to the matter in hand. O-P wrote:
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The error_log and access_log files show no mention of julianxu's IP address. The servers .htaccess files also show no denial of his IP range, just in case you wanted to ask about that too.

Sorry to report but the highlighted quote above was in error.

Checking the error_log for the time suggested in your previous post, I was able to isolate 6 separate IP addresses within a ten minute range, all coming from China, with the statement client denied by server configuration:

I then went back through the listings in the .htaccess file, copied them to a new file rearranging them into a vertical list, one IP address or network per line, because their arrangement as used in the working file was very difficult for me to read. Old far sighted eyes, even with glasses, don't work like they should with massive blocks of single space separated IP addresses. Once I had the vertical list I was able to locate the individual spammer bans involved.

All told there are 237 separate bans listed as the result of Chinese spammers, some to individual addresses, most to entire networks. It was the latter type that caused the confusion, and are responsible for julianxu's current problem. Unfortunately these network bans are in place because the spammers were attempting 10-20 registrations per hour from them, using automated bot networks to constantly change individual IP addresses for each registration, thus poisoning the entire address pool for that network.

Considering the current state of the situation with Chinese spambots, it's highly unlikely these bans will be removed in the foreseeable future. I've had to ban a few more known individual Chinese spammers just since my last post to this thread.

Sorry I didn't catch this sooner, so as to save all the time and effort everyone has spent trying to sort this out.

Special thanks to kjpetrie for finally putting me on the right track to solving this. Working with Internet servers is all new to me, so this is very much appreciated. The results may not be what we desired but, from my viewpoint, it's been an interesting learning experience. ;)

julianxu:

Sorry to say, it looks like you are stuck using proxy servers if you want to continue accessing the forum.






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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #159 on: March 14, 2012, 06:59:10 PM »

julianxu:

Sorry to say, it looks like you are stuck using proxy servers if you want to continue accessing the forum.


Ok, I can understant it, and it is not a big problem for me.

But one more thing to say,I think it is important to pclos.As I know,majority potential user of pclos from China had encountered the visiting issue as mine.Some of them know pclos through distrowatch.com,others through internet search,they all did is just leave when they got the wrong page,because they thinked pclos may be not existed... I insisted on trying, as aforementioned,because I am a regular reader of pclos magazine,so I know pclos is where it would be.   

I certainly want to continue visiting our forum,and I have a lot to learn,may be more "annoying" question ;D

Finally,I want to say "Thank you" to every friends,I had known why you all said this forum is a family in pclos magazine, and I wish every friends happy and health.
regards,
Julian

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Should I mark this post "resovled" and how to do it! ::)

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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #160 on: March 14, 2012, 07:07:08 PM »

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Should I mark this post "resovled" and how to do it! ::)


Go to the first post of this thread and click the Modify link at the upper right. In the Subject: box add (Resolved) to the existing subject line. Click the Save button at the bottom of the window and you're done.
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Re: I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?
« Reply #161 on: March 14, 2012, 07:31:05 PM »
Sorry to see you sit with this problem.
I too, but to a far lesser extend, am a victim of " asian originated " spam attacks.
In the last 6 months I had 2 cases like this. I wanted to be white listed, but because I also have a dynamic IP, it is not possible.
So, they lifted the ban on the domain, only to notify me less than 2 weeks later they had to " re-ban " my domain again.
A few years ago, when I was a moderator on a Spanish language forum, out spam log showed we had over a 100 attacks a day, all automated of course. Don't know how they solved the problem or IF, as I am no longer there.

OK, maybe we see you again.

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