[Resolved]I can not visit this site directly,so what I will do?

[julianxu]

2)The proxy I used is an online proxy,You could try it:  http://polysolve.com/
    As an online proxy,I need not do tinker with my computer to use it,so the IP address is my real IP.
   At least,I think so,is it right pal?

Yes, you are correct. Your actual IP is :114.250.126.175. According to APNIC's whois database, the address block 114.240.0.0 - 114.255.255.255 belongs to China Unicom Beijing province network.

Sorry to run off, but it's way past my bed time.

you and all friends are so kind,good night to you!

[kjpetrie]

I'm going to make a bold out-of-the-box observation here. In doing so I only intend to help and I in no way wish it to be construed as a criticism of anyone at pclos or any of the attempts made so far to identify the problem, but something stands out here for me in reading through this thread which I think has not received sufficient attention. If the OP is being misdirected, he is being misdirected to a site running Apache 2 on a CentOS server, which cannot recognise the domain he wants and serves its test page. What proportion of servers would run Apache on CentOS (compared with 'buntu, RH, Fedora or FreeBSD)?

I think it's a bit of a coincidence that this 'wrong' location runs the same OS as the legitimate pclos server, and I think it's more likely he's reaching the correct server, but it fails to recognise his request. I would guess that's going to be a character encoding problem or something of that nature. This is likely to be an issue only Enki can check, as it will relate to the way they have Apache set up, or even the locale in CentOS, and is likely to be beyond pclos' control.

Maybe this thought is already in the back of Neal or O-P's minds and they just want to clear other things up first, but I certainly think unrecognised headers at the server are a likely candidate for this result.

I don't know whether anything would show up in the error log in these circumstances, but it might be worth a look if it hasn't already been checked.

[Neal ManBear]

I have found nothing so far, or I would have said/done something.     

[julianxu]

I'm going to make a bold out-of-the-box observation here. In doing so I only intend to help and I in no way wish it to be construed as a criticism of anyone at pclos or any of the attempts made so far to identify the problem, but something stands out here for me in reading through this thread which I think has not received sufficient attention.

Neal had participated in this dicussion; and O-P had given his(or her) helps to me already,He had send  a lot of private forum messages to me,and he had done a test according to my IP address.

I would guess that's going to be a character encoding problem or something of that nature.

I visited pclinuxos.com under pclinuxos,this is a pure English system and I got wrong page,so do you still think it is a character encoding problem?could you give me some suggestions to do an experiment ?

[Xenaflux]

julianxu
Do I understand correct ?.......you have PCLinuOS in Virtualbox.
Is there any reason for not having it on Hard disk.

[julianxu]

julianxu
Do I understand correct ?.......you have PCLinuOS in Virtualbox.
Is there any reason for not having it on Hard disk.

Yes,I am using pclinuxos under virtualbox,and my main(host) system is winXP.
That is because that
1)I am a newbie to linux,altogh I had noticed it a long time.So I want to study pclinuxos in virtualbox.
2)I have no adquate disk spaces.

and I got wrong page in both systems;the same result hits me when I used other computers in other places,so this issue should not be related to the specific system,right?

I am glad to meet you again,Xenaflux!But I will go to bed in less than an hour later,I think^-^

[Xenaflux]

1)I am a newbie to linux,altogh I had noticed it a long time.So I want to study pclinuxos in virtualbox.

OK , fair enough. Best not to mess up things before you know what it is.

I have no adquate disk spaces.

10 Gb is all you need. ( only for your Info) : 1 or 2Gb swap and about 8 Gb for / is enough for a try.

and I got wrong page in both systems;the same result hits me when I used other computers in other places,so this issue should not be related to the specific system,right?

Yes, correct.
Sorry, I forgot about that bit.

Sleep well....I am also going to hit the sack

[julianxu]

This may be another clue:

I had done many,many efforts to register on our forum before.Everytime I finished filling of my registering info,and then I click the "register" button,I got a message like this "The email you used to register is a spam... " or something like this.So I succeed in registering just recently.This is one of the original ideas that I think it is an issue of our forum's sever setting,but Neal and O-P had told me that is incorrect.This is the message O-P send to me:

The corrected number from your last message belongs to:

4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network

which is much more believable.  Grin

I've checked all of the possible ban triggers that might affect that IP address, in relation to PCLinuxOS and this forum, and there are none. There is nothing in the forum configuration or any existing bans against known spammers that would affect your real IP address, or prevent it from being used to access the forum. Whatever the problem, it does not originate here.

We have had a very large problem with spammers from China over the last two years, and very few legitimate Chinese users. Sometimes a legitimate user gets caught in one of the spammer bans, so we have to make special rules to allow them access while keeping the known spammers out, which is why I needed your correct IP address to check this very thoroughly.

I hope you can get this resolved so you can enjoy full use of the forum and all its functions, without the need for a proxy server, or its limitations.

You can see that the administrators had indeed done some blocks because of the spammers issue,including spammers from China and O-P had clacified it.Considering my registering process,is there any implicit issues?Why I tell this is just for a clue,is this help? (I think there are a lot errors in my English,so I hope you could understand my meaning fully,and there is no any offense to talk about forum sever setting again,I have try my best,sweating!!!^-^)

[Neal ManBear]

Did you get O-P's permission to post that PM? It is not good to post a PM from someone without getting their permission.     

[Old-Polack]

Did you get O-P's permission to post that PM? It is not good to post a PM from someone without getting their permission.     

I'm cool with it. I just did it off the thread so as to not to add confusion from possibly conflicting instructions from various other replies, until my checking was done. The fact that the user name and email he's currently using didn't trigger a ban message eliminated that, so I concentrated on IP address blocks and hostname ban triggers, and found nothing even close.

[kjpetrie]

I visited pclinuxos.com under pclinuxos,this is a pure English system and I got wrong page,so do you still think it is a character encoding problem?could you give me some suggestions to do an experiment ?

Sorry if you've already tried it, but boot into the livecd (it won't harm your installed system) connect it to the internet (you will probably have to set up the connection in "Configure your computer"), and try to access the forum from there.

You say it's a plain English machine, but the Windows in your screenshot wasn't plain English, and I wonder whether that might have affected something. Then again, possibly somewhere online your character set might be converted. You can't easily check for that latter case, but you can at least check your machine itself.

I realise Neal and O-P would have done something if they'd found anything, but I'm not suggesting it's anything obvious in the forum configuration. Obviously, they've looked. Obviously it's not something they have access to, or they would have found it. I don't know enough about the hosting arrangements to comment further than that.

What I keep coming back to are two facts:

1. Tracert certainly gets into the US, where it is unlikely anyone could misroot traffic without being noticed

2. The server that responds runs the same (unusual?) combination of software as the pclos forum server.

Either the person hijacking the IP address has taken the trouble to match the software, but not attempted to mimic the site, or you are reaching the right server, but it doesn't understand your request.

We have no way of knowing how common this problem is. I suspect you have been more persistent than most in finding a way to this forum to tell us. There could be many others who just gave up, for all we know.

I'm not trying to tread on anyone's toes here. I'm just trying to come up with a theory that fits the facts. I don't claim to have any special knowledge. Maybe there is another explanation none of us can see.

[djohnston]

I think it's a bit of a coincidence that this 'wrong' location runs the same OS as the legitimate pclos server, and I think it's more likely he's reaching the correct server, but it fails to recognise his request.

That had occured to me, too, as I seem to remember Archie seeing the CentOS page before. But, I'm not real familiar with the server side and what error would cause what julianxu is seeing.

[The Chief]

After reading thorough this thread, I started playing around and found an interesting discrepancy. 

If I use the the name of the PCLOS web site (www.pclinuxos.com and let the DNS server figure it out), I get a page that is too large for the display on my laptop.  That is, I have to scroll over to the right to see the link to the forum.  It is scalable with the keys or mouse wheel.

However, if I use the direct IP address (199.231.58.82), I get a page that will fit into the window, no matter the size.  No horizontal scroll bar at all, but the text is smaller.  The content does appear to be the same.  It is scalable with the keys or mouse wheel.

Looks to me like I'm getting two different pages (either different html or different css files), else they would look (and act) the same. 

What else could cause that?   Does the Firefox save the scaling?  I haven't noticed it doing that for other sites.  Or am I  missing something, here?

[kjpetrie]

Well, I've done something to weaken my own theory. I put "www.gibberish.com" in my hosts file with the pclos IP address, and got the correct page. I'm sure the server doesn't recognise that domain name, so it doesn't need a valid host header to know what to serve.

Hmm... at least that eliminates something.

[YouCanToo]

Well, I've done something to weaken my own theory. I put "www.gibberish.com" in my hosts file with the pclos IP address, and got the correct page. I'm sure the server doesn't recognise that domain name, so it doesn't need a valid host header to know what to serve.

Hmm... at least that eliminates something.

It is acting the way it should be since you actually gave "www.gibberish.com" the IP numbers to resolve to.  What did you think it was going to display?