PCLINUXOS to yum?

[daniel]

Apt-rpm is so old?

Thinking some members so old, too.
And now?

How older so better 

[Archie]

I had a look at the yum/yumex source (and tried to play around with it) and just shrank in defeat. The conversion task may come easy in words ... hey, let's move to YUM ... but in reality, if this isn't well thought over (and I did mention that it would be Tex to make or break this conversion, if and when it happens), everyone is gonna get it bad and that's one thing we do not want for our users.

[Xenaflux]

and I did mention that it would be Tex to make or break this conversion

If memory serves me right ( ? ) , I seem to remember that there was a conversation about this more than a year ago, and Tex was involved in that conversation.
Again, If memory serves me right, tex didn't seem to be that enthusiastic about it, but he was investigating it.
Since we have no follow up on it, it doesn't look to be something for the near future.
(( unless Tex is working on it in the deepest of deep secrets ))

[Archie]

<<☷ Tex is lost in his Transformer Optimus Prime ☷>>

[daves]

When I said "apt-rpm is so old" I was referring to the fact that is not updated since 2008. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the package manager is or is not one of the most important pieces of a distro? So, if possible, should not we fix this? It is true that it is not as urgent as other things. If yum doesn't match with what we want we can look for another one. Maybe zypper, or urpmi.

[daniel]

When I said "apt-rpm is so old" I was referring to the fact that is not updated since 2008. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the package manager is or is not one of the most important pieces of a distro?

and any problems?

[menotu]

and I did mention that it would be Tex to make or break this conversion

If memory serves me right ( ? ) , I seem to remember that there was a conversation about this more than a year ago, and Tex was involved in that conversation.
Again, If memory serves me right, tex didn't seem to be that enthusiastic about it, but he was investigating it.
Since we have no follow up on it, it doesn't look to be something for the near future.
(( unless Tex is working on it in the deepest of deep secrets ))

There was a some testing carried out and it wasn't all plain sailing, and of course there were always other needs/priorities grabbing for Texstar attention.

I personally would be more than happy to stay with Synaptic - I like it's simplicity and find it fairly robust as well.

I think it's stood the test of time pretty darned well.

[T6]

this has been talked in the past many times, i don't see new arguments here other than apps old and that we would like to see new stuff to compare with those old apps

honestly, whatever the people here decides to be the best new option should be perfect for us, so i am  in no hurry or worried, when it is ready it will be ready, and it will be good, whatever it is going to be

the criteria for pclinux team is choose the most capable, stable, simple and secure option

this only can lead us to a improvement and honestly we are in a really good place now, can't imagine something better atm

[kernowyon]

When I said "apt-rpm is so old" I was referring to the fact that is not updated since 2008. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the package manager is or is not one of the most important pieces of a distro? So, if possible, should not we fix this? It is true that it is not as urgent as other things. If yum doesn't match with what we want we can look for another one. Maybe zypper, or urpmi.

Unless Tex decides to go with another package manager, I am more than happy with using Apt. It is reliable, easy to follow and we are all used to it here

I admit to panicking a bit when I read a thread some time ago which mentioned a possible move to Yum - not because Yum is a bad manager (I am sure it is fine), but simply because, like many old folks, I hate change!

[Crow]

I admit to panicking a bit when I read a thread some time ago which mentioned a possible move to Yum - not because Yum is a bad manager (I am sure it is fine), but simply because, like many old folks, I hate change!

Me too, I understood there are some benefits for the distro and that was the reason for a change, I don't remember someone saying there are problems right now. Let's see, but I don't think it's in the near future.

[ternor]

When I said "apt-rpm is so old" I was referring to the fact that is not updated since 2008. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the package manager is or is not one of the most important pieces of a distro? So, if possible, should not we fix this? It is true that it is not as urgent as other things. If yum doesn't match with what we want we can look for another one. Maybe zypper, or urpmi.

Not urpmi, please.  Anything but urpmi.

[YouCanToo]

When I said "apt-rpm is so old" I was referring to the fact that is not updated since 2008.

Just because it is old doesn't mean it is not functional any more!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the package manager is or is not one of the most important pieces of a distro? So, if possible, should not we fix this?

So why do we need to fix something that isn't broken?  It works and does what is needed.

It is true that it is not as urgent as other things. If yum doesn't match with what we want we can look for another one. Maybe zypper, or urpmi.

[gseaman]

I may be remembering this incorrectly, but I thought the urgency was originally that apt4rpm was not being updated to the newer rpm. I think this was solved for the time being, but not necessarily for now on.

Galen

[Neal ManBear]

That is correct, Galen. At the time we began looking at yum, there were some problems surfacing with apt4rpm/synaptic. Those problems were fixed.    

[kernowyon]

That is correct, Galen. At the time we began looking at yum, there were some problems surfacing with apt4rpm/synaptic. Those problems were fixed.    

::Hugs Galen and the ManBear whilst dancing happily!::

Good news for me!