Spacefm

[Just17]

HAL is deprecated in SpaceFM

HAL is deprecated everywhere : no more maintained since several years. It has been replaced everywhere or mostly all distros by udev along with udisks and upower. But not yet in PCLinuxOS.

It is available but the functions of the app are limited when using it.

The full functions are not what we are used to.

There are some problems in PCLOS installs when using the udisks version of the app
Those problems do not manifest themselves in the live Openbox environment.

Yes, they do manifest. I have just tried a while ago in Openbox Bonsai. I have installed the rpm from Archie which uses udisks and not HAL. This is what I sayd just above. What is it that I wrote which can not be understood ?

Considering the above, if the devs have any time to look at the problems, I think it would be a worthwhile exercise.

I would certainly prefer to have available a fully functional app a little later, than a limited one immediately.

Up to the devs of course ....

If you have 10 minutes available, wouldn't you give it a try in a Openbox Bonsai ? You could install the rpm version of Archie. Then you would see what I mean... The devs will decide what they like. I am almost sure that most users won't find their way through menus bursting in all directions. I could try to make a short videoscreen if I find some time a little later. My virtual machine is even still opened.

I have not run Openbox ....  but if it is failing there too then that puts a different light on things.

[Taco.22]

So far the --enable-hal option seems to work.  It would be good to know if it works with other DEs.  If this is the case, and as PCLinuxOS still relies on hal, then I would see the default PCLinuxOS package taking the hal option.  As hal disappears from PCLinuxOS then Spacefm, and no doubt other packages that use hal, will be reconfigured as required.   In the case of Spacefm that config is built in so there is no extra work required.  I think a test run across various DEs with --enable-hal as the default will soon give us an answer.  I for one would love to see this FM in the repos.  I think it has a lot to offer, plus we also have direct input to its development thanks to IgnorantGuru and his willingness to involve us and give assistance.

IgnorantGuru - by the way, I'm glad my snapshot involving the errant manager helped solve a bug, even if by accident!!   Thanks.

[Archie]

My apologies if I seemed like I was out of the loop ... I am not. Last day of the Chinese New Year festivities + in-laws = I'll it to your imaginations.

Back to business. 0.6.2, --enable-hal ... anything else I might have missed? I could only skim through the thread at the moment ... I seem to have accumulated a bit of backlog. Are we ready for another round?

[Taco.22]

Hi Archie,

Good to see you survived the Chinese New Year/in-laws.  Now there's a combo

New package with "--enable-hal" - go for it.  Couple of bugs I'd like to hit on the head!   

[Archie]

Hi Archie,

Good to see you survived the Chinese New Year/in-laws.  Now there's a combo

New package with "--enable-hal" - go for it.  Couple of bugs I'd like to hit on the head!   

I'm on it.

[melodie]

Hi Archie,

Good to see you survived the Chinese New Year/in-laws.  Now there's a combo

New package with "--enable-hal" - go for it.  Couple of bugs I'd like to hit on the head!   

I'm on it.

Hi Archie,
The hal support you need for compiling and building are provided by these packages:
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,102292.msg872207.html#msg872207

It means that the package IgnorantGuru told us to be "hal-storage" has it's equivalent in our libhal-devel-0.5.14 package. We also need libdbus-glib-1_2-devel, and I guess you have libwxgtk-2.8 in your system, as well as other needed devel packages.

Looking forward to try your new package !

Regards,
Mélodie

[Archie]

The RPMS (32 and 64-bit) have been built without incident.  I just got a bit of a bump on my Test04 and am now on Live so things got a little crazy. I will upload the RPMS on the cloud and post the links ASAP.

EDIT:
Enjoy testing ...

spacefm-0.6.2-1_archie_2012.i586.rpm
2949cdb0e582f66420fe7b805659c324
http://api2.ge.tt/0/8ylEVAD/1/blob/download

spacefm-0.6.2-1_archie_2012.x86_64.rpm
a9a4beb2cab685f3e3e595cbb6c94405
http://api2.ge.tt/0/8RJkPf7/32/blob/download

[Neal ManBear]

Check your email, Archie.     

[Just17]

Installed the 32 bit ........  the graphical SU paths do not seem to be correct ......  or am I misinterpreting something?

[Taco.22]

Have installed the 32 bit.  Weird - performance is slow and the "right-click..open with" doesn't work.  Most of the time - works sometimes .  Had this with the last 0.6.2 tar.xz, but not when I tested it in Crunchbang.  Pcmanfm works as it should by comparison.  

[melodie]

Installed the 32 bit ........  the graphical SU paths do not seem to be correct ......  or am I misinterpreting something?

I opened the file manager as root, and it works. Is it because I am using ktuss and not gksu ? It opened a twin pane, the color all around is of a nice dark red, and I could remove one file from /root, left after the last time I used lomanager.

For now I am still using the version I compiled myself. I didn't try the package yet.

I just lost the toolbar with the icons and the address bar by hitting "hide", and I didn't know how to recover it. I have looked in the menus, in the right-click menus and didn't find... I have remove .config/spacefm out of the way and got them back. I wonder if there is  a menu and which one for that ? I retried, removing it from one pane and trying to restore it using the one from another pane... I don't find any way else than restoring it from the ground up.

One more : I had a look at the mo file (changed it into a po with the msgunfmt command line) and it seemed to me that it is fully translated to French, however, when I look at the menus and submenus, and the different windows it pops up : for preferences for example, there is very little which is localised. What is missing so far for translations ?

[Taco.22]

I just lost the toolbar with the icons and the address bar by hitting "hide", and I didn't know how to recover it. I have looked in the menus, in the right-click menus and didn't find... I have remove .config/spacefm out of the way and got them back. I wonder if there is  a menu and which one for that ? I retried, removing it from one pane and trying to restore it using the one from another pane... I don't find any way else than restoring it from the ground up.

Right click in open pane - View/Toolbox toggles the toolbar.

[melodie]

Right click in open pane - View/Toolbox toggles the toolbar.

That works ! Thanks Taco. There are so many menus ! 

Even the menus to change fonts and I don't know what else there...   

[Taco.22]

What an exercise in frustration .  Anyway, got one thing sorted out.  The issue I was having with the right click menu not working was ringing a bell, but it took a while to nut out.  Basically there is a conflict between Aurora and elegant-aurora and Spacefm on my Bonsai system.  We had an issue with OB and Thunar and the aforementioned themes a while back, and that was solved by changing a menu padding value in the themes gtkrc. - http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,89793.msg753195.html#msg753195 for those interested.  No idea this time.  I have changed the theme to Raleigh and now everything flies.  I had forgotten how lightweight Raleigh is!

Ah well, just another one of those little quirks .    

[Archie]

With --enable-hal, something went really strange on my Test4. After some brief testing and uploading the files to Ge.tt, I couldn't login after a reboot. At first, I thought it was one of the updates but I am convinced that the build with --enable-hal might have caused it. And I have emailed the Testers ML.

I am not absolutely certain but what else could it be? I've spent the whole day yesterday putting my install back to its pre-disaster state.