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Offline niculinux

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wine will be avaiable for pclinuxos 64 bit relases(s) ?
« on: January 31, 2012, 12:53:39 PM »
Good evening

I've a question, only for enquiry and not support purposes, will the 64 bit upcoming relases of pclinuxos have in their repositories the program "wine"?w

I'm kinda worried, because texstar wrote here: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,100558.0.html

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Some packages will be 64bit only. Some packages will be 32 bit only so if you are thinking about moving to 64 bit make sure the software you use is available.


So, any hope about

thanks, and let's cross our fingers   ;D


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Re: wine will be avaiable for pclinuxos 64 bit relases(s) ?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 02:24:23 PM »
Not available at the moment.....

and difficult to package...
=> it wants several 32bit libraries, and Texstar wants a "clean" 64bit system - so still thinking how to solve this  :)

I'd like to see Wine included too, but patience is needed I think  ;) (it's ready when it's ready => not ready at the moment  :))


Maybe someone can clarify the state of wine (or if there's made a decision about (not) including the package)?



Thanks in advance  :)

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Re: wine will be avaiable for pclinuxos 64 bit relases(s) ?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 02:33:54 PM »
thank oyu, rubentje1991  :D

let's hope not to forget about it, there's some games I'd like to play via wine...


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Re: wine will be avaiable for pclinuxos 64 bit relases(s) ?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 04:24:32 PM »
Not available at the moment.....

and difficult to package...
=> it wants several 32bit libraries, and Texstar wants a "clean" 64bit system - so still thinking how to solve this  :)

I'd like to see Wine included too, but patience is needed I think  ;) (it's ready when it's ready => not ready at the moment  :))


Maybe someone can clarify the state of wine (or if there's made a decision about (not) including the package)?



Thanks in advance  :)

Ruben,

Can you look at this and see if I'm reading it right? At first, I thought it was just for running 64bit Windows programs. But, there's a section titled Building both 32- and 64-bit Wine from the same source tree. I still haven't figured out if they're just talking about 64 bits on the Windows side or not.
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Re: wine will be avaiable for pclinuxos 64 bit relases(s) ?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 03:32:20 AM »
I have not used wine at all so I do not know if this is possible.

Have you considered running one of the 32 bit flavors of PCLOS in virtualbox on 64bit PCLOS as host until a 64 bit version of wine is available?

Just for grins, I am running the "alpha" version of Windows 8 on virtualbox running on 64 bit PCLOS.

And no, I don't like it at all but it does run.

Anyway, some of the quad core machines like mine are fast enough that you can get by just fine doing such things.



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Re: wine will be avaiable for pclinuxos 64 bit relases(s) ?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 09:56:45 AM »
thak, all of you guys  :)

but for the vitrtualbox way I'm afraid it's a little tricky and unpratical for me  :-[ :'(

anyway, as a partial solution, I thought: if I use a wine version designed for the 32 bit relase, I found out a rpm right here:
http://www.rpmseek.com/rpm/wine-1.1.37-1pclos2010.i586.html?hl=com&cs=wine:FN:0:0:0:0:0:7796303

(it refers to a pclinuxos 2010 relase)

and then install the ia32-libs (required to execute 32 bit progs on 64 bit hardware) via synaptic, it can get the job done?
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Re: wine will be avaiable for pclinuxos 64 bit relases(s) ?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 10:01:32 AM »

but for the vitrtualbox way I'm afraid it's a little tricky and unpratical for me  :-[ :'(


Define what you mean by that. What app would you be trying to run? Believe me, it is far easier to run Windows apps in VirtualBox on a real copy of Windows than it is to run the same app on wine.
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Re: wine will be avaiable for pclinuxos 64 bit relases(s) ?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 10:05:11 AM »

but for the vitrtualbox way I'm afraid it's a little tricky and unpratical for me  :-[ :'(


Define what you mean by that. What app would you be trying to run? Believe me, it is far easier to run Windows apps in VirtualBox on a real copy of Windows than it is to run the same app on wine.

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Re: wine will be avaiable for pclinuxos 64 bit relases(s) ?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 02:57:43 PM »
Thanks for your reply, djohnston, but it speaks about running Win64 programs....

I'd like to refer to following page (packaging wine for 64bit Linux):
http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64ForPackagers
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Though this changes how the 64bit Wine is build and packaged correctly as a 64bit Wine requires both 64bit as well as 32bit libraries and binaries.

=> see the problem  ;)

Reading through the rest of the page, you can see it can be a pain with our current requirements... but maybe we find a way to add the package in the future  :)

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Re: wine will be avaiable for pclinuxos 64 bit relases(s) ?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 10:04:53 PM »
I'd like to refer to following page (packaging wine for 64bit Linux):
http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64ForPackagers
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Though this changes how the 64bit Wine is build and packaged correctly as a 64bit Wine requires both 64bit as well as 32bit libraries and binaries.

=> see the problem  ;)

Reading through the rest of the page, you can see it can be a pain with our current requirements... but maybe we find a way to add the package in the future  :)


Thanks, Ruben. I didn't find that link. "Wine 64bit and it's WoW64 subsystem aren't ready for public consumption yet. We still recommend the 32bit Wine build for users." That pretty much says it all.
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