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64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« on: January 21, 2012, 09:51:28 AM »
Hello friends,
After I installed PCLinuxOS, I realized my system was not recognizing the full 8GB of the memory I had installed. I suspect it is because the version of PCLinuxOS that I downloaded, release Date 09-23-2011, Kernel 2.6.38.8, is a 32-bit OS. Can anyone point me to the stable version of 64-bit KDE desktop version? I am very new to Linux, and therefore I may not be in a position to handle the difficulties associated with Beta versions. Any help would be great.

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« Last Edit: January 21, 2012, 11:09:33 AM by old-polack »

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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 10:01:51 AM »
Try one of the kernels with an .pae extension which allows the system to "see/use" 4GB +

I personally use the kernel-2.6.38.8-pclos3.pae.bfs version

Open Synaptic and do a reload and then search for the kernel and install it and reboot the system (first reboot may take a few minutes whilst the system "rebuilds" itself with the new kernel so be patient  ;) )

Note 1: I would first do a full update of my system (with a possible restart) and only then install the new kernel.

Note 2: The "original" kernel doesn't need to be removed as the new one will become the default.

Finally, welcome to the forum. Good luck

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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 11:00:42 AM »
After installing a new kernel, reboot. The first boot of a new kernel will take longer than normal; the drivers need to be built on the new kernel.     

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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 11:21:30 AM »
Thanks Menotu and Neal. I will try the solutions you have suggested.

Menotu,
Can you please clarify  your note1 -"do a full update of the the system"? Thought I had the latest version (for its intended purpose). Hesitant to install all the packages that shows as "not installed" in the synaptic. Does it mean first do a search on the currently installed kernel, i.e 2.6.38.8, reload and install in synaptic and then install the .pae version? I hope I do not have it backwards...

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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 11:29:29 AM »
Open Synaptic Package Manager, click Reload, Click Mark All Upgrades, click Apply and again click Apply. This is doing a complete update of your system; i.e. you are updated the installed software. You should do this at least once a week and before installing any new software or kernels.     

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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2012, 01:05:46 PM »
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Menotu,
Can you please clarify  your note1 -"do a full update of the the system"?

Please see the sage advice Neal posted.
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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2012, 01:28:26 PM »
In case you have an Athlon 64-bit processor, there's also a kernel that ends in. "a.64" that works just fine for me. Same procedure as the ideas above.

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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 02:30:30 PM »
I have a similar issue to the above. I replaced a dieing motherboard and knowing Linux can be a bit memory hungry sometimes i got more RAM.
The kernels are confusing with many to choose from.
What kernel would be best for this?
Ausus M5A78L-M LX V2 with AMD Bulldozer HEXA 3.3Ghz processor and 8 Gig of 1333Mhz DDR3 ram.
There is a kernel for an AMD 8 listed but the processor i have is a 6 core job and very fast in 32 bit mode.
How do i test to check if it is seeing the ram? I have been looking for a pull down or whatever. I have looked in the configure hardware and have not found anything. It cost only half the price of 4 gig more than any others i looked at when i bought it.
I had another issue with making a live CD.
I went for a DVD+RW from a brand new cake pack and K3b showed an error message that it could not erase it on an old single core machine with Pclos 2009 on it. This happened again after i copied the downloaded image to the DVD as an ordinary file and tried again from Pclos 2010 with the new motherboard installed. I used the first DVD with the transferred image on it and it worked. It looks like it needs old files on the disk in order to work. Strange...

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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2012, 02:34:31 PM »
Refugee,     
As previously said, install the pae or pae.bfs kernel. Please reread the thread.     

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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2012, 02:51:45 PM »
I have a similar issue to the above. I replaced a dieing motherboard and knowing Linux can be a bit memory hungry sometimes i got more RAM.
The kernels are confusing with many to choose from.
What kernel would be best for this?
Ausus M5A78L-M LX V2 with AMD Bulldozer HEXA 3.3Ghz processor and 8 Gig of 1333Mhz DDR3 ram.
There is a kernel for an AMD 8 listed but the processor i have is a 6 core job and very fast in 32 bit mode.
How do i test to check if it is seeing the ram? I have been looking for a pull down or whatever. I have looked in the configure hardware and have not found anything. It cost only half the price of 4 gig more than any others i looked at when i bought it.
I had another issue with making a live CD.
I went for a DVD+RW from a brand new cake pack and K3b showed an error message that it could not erase it on an old single core machine with Pclos 2009 on it. This happened again after i copied the downloaded image to the DVD as an ordinary file and tried again from Pclos 2010 with the new motherboard installed. I used the first DVD with the transferred image on it and it worked. It looks like it needs old files on the disk in order to work. Strange...


For the memory check:

[root@fatman ~]# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:      16488880   10792424    5696456          0     353124    9321584
-/+ buffers/cache:    1117716   15371164
Swap:     14105060          0   14105060

Installed kernel;

[root@fatman ~]# uname -r
2.6.38.8-pclos3.pae.bfs

I don't know what you're on about concerning the DVD+RW issue. I have about 400 of these, Memorex brand mostly, and have never had any problems burning them with K3B. You're not supposed to erase them, just re-burn them. Erasing DVD+RW media can damage it beyond recovery, and is not advised. DVD-RW needs to be erased between burns.
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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2012, 03:11:17 PM »
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I don't know what you're on about concerning the DVD+RW issue. I have about 400 of these, Memorex brand mostly, and have never had any problems burning them with K3B. You're not supposed to erase them, just re-burn them. Erasing DVD+RW media can damage it beyond recovery, and is not advised. DVD-RW needs to be erased between burns.

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IIRC K3b should refuse to erase DVD+RW .......  there is a means to force it I guess but it would be rarely used and even then only in special circumstances.
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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2012, 08:14:03 AM »
Cheers for the mem check command i will do that as soon as i have tried the AMD kernel (next on my list) the processor is i am sure is fast enough to go with the 1000 hertz PAE bfs kernel.
I have been unplugging the drive with my backup on it during testing. Once i am happy i will back up the drive i intend to use and clean install to it.
We are homing in on it however there may soon be a further update in the rep for the HEXA processor (6 core AMD) that i will go for in an instant!

The DVD drive issue there are two

I had so much trouble with getting Pclos 2012 onto the dieing intel MB that i had downloaded the live CD image to an old AMD box with only 500mb of RAM. I tried to create the live CD as per downloaded image using K3b selecting the iso9660 option. An error message appeared when i loaded a Verbatim 4X DVD+RW. I then gave up and copied the file as downloaded as a FAT32 to the same DVD without issue. I then took it to the box with the new MB that worked from the box It was built and bench tested by my supplier (cclonline.com).
I copied it to the hard drive that contained my files running Pclos 2010 and tried to make a live CD onto another unused DVD+RW and got the same message. I then put the first DVD with the live CD image on it as a FAT32 on it and there was no error message and it worked without issue. Both Pclos 2010 and 2009 showed the same message with a new DVD loaded. I am unable to rule out a bug of some kind.



It just showed no medium present and failed. The image did not show in message preview (from Ksnapshot) for some reason.
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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2012, 10:50:41 AM »
Cheers for the mem check command i will do that as soon as i have tried the AMD kernel (next on my list) the processor is i am sure is fast enough to go with the 1000 hertz PAE bfs kernel.
I have been unplugging the drive with my backup on it during testing. Once i am happy i will back up the drive i intend to use and clean install to it.
We are homing in on it however there may soon be a further update in the rep for the HEXA processor (6 core AMD) that i will go for in an instant!

The DVD drive issue there are two

I had so much trouble with getting Pclos 2012 onto the dieing intel MB that i had downloaded the live CD image to an old AMD box with only 500mb of RAM. I tried to create the live CD as per downloaded image using K3b selecting the iso9660 option. An error message appeared when i loaded a Verbatim 4X DVD+RW. I then gave up and copied the file as downloaded as a FAT32 to the same DVD without issue. I then took it to the box with the new MB that worked from the box It was built and bench tested by my supplier (cclonline.com).
I copied it to the hard drive that contained my files running Pclos 2010 and tried to make a live CD onto another unused DVD+RW and got the same message. I then put the first DVD with the live CD image on it as a FAT32 on it and there was no error message and it worked without issue. Both Pclos 2010 and 2009 showed the same message with a new DVD loaded. I am unable to rule out a bug of some kind.



It just showed no medium present and failed. The image did not show in message preview (from Ksnapshot) for some reason.



What, pray tell, has FAT32 got to do with burning an .iso image to disk? Why are you using DVD+RW for an image small enough to fit on a CD-R or CD-RW? How did you get PCLinuxOS installed to your hard drive?

I keep reading what you wrote, but have no idea of what it is you are trying to say. None of it makes any sense at all.

Standard Method For Installing PCLinuxOS:

1. Download image.

2. Burn image to CD-R or CD-RW disk.

3. Install PCLinuxOS from running liveCD.

You say you completed step 1, failed step 2, so how did you accomplish step 3?

You are telling us a story, without giving any meaningful information we can relate to. Without details of what you've done, step by step, and the results or each step as they occurred, in proper order, it remains just a story, and as told, makes no sense. You make reference to processes and file systems that have nothing whatever to do with the above three steps, and refer to getting a downloaded image onto an Intel motherboard, which also makes no sense. If you don't use the correct words and phrases when writing a sentence, and don't organize them in a logical manner, how are we supposed to understand what it is you are trying to say?  ???
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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2012, 04:33:33 PM »
You are confused...
The second attempt at step 2 with a file on the DVD worked without issue. It was successful!!! As was step 3 and a whole lot quicker than from CD since the transfer rate from DVD is faster and with a fast MB in the box it was worth it.

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Re: 64 Bit PCLinuxOS KDE version?
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2012, 04:57:26 PM »
You are confused...
The second attempt at step 2 with a file on the DVD worked without issue. It was successful!!! As was step 3 and a whole lot quicker than from CD since the transfer rate from DVD is faster and with a fast MB in the box it was worth it.


So am I  ???


I had so much trouble with getting Pclos 2012 onto the dieing intel MB that i had downloaded the live CD image to an old AMD box with only 500mb of RAM. I tried to create the live CD as per downloaded image using K3b selecting the iso9660 option. An error message appeared when i loaded a Verbatim 4X DVD+RW. I then gave up and copied the file as downloaded as a FAT32 to the same DVD without issue. I then took it to the box with the new MB that worked from the box It was built and bench tested by my supplier (cclonline.com).


What does it mean "as FAT32" when burning a ISO image which IS ISO9660 ?