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(SOLVED) LXDE and Clementine
« on: January 13, 2012, 03:53:47 PM »
Hi,

Noticed that Clementine starts up in a default screen in LXDE.
In OpenBox Full it uses the full gtk system theme.  Should be
a minor addition of some library to LXDE needed I would think
to get it to use the system theme.

Any ideas, Neal ?

THX.

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 04:43:52 PM »
It uses the default system theme here.

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 05:45:43 PM »
It uses the default system theme here.

What I mean is that it's using the user selected theme, which
is better, of course.  If LXDE could do that, even better, rather
than the default.

Have to ask Melodie sometime what could have triggered that,
what Clementine was looking for and found.

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2012, 02:51:36 AM »
It uses the default system theme here.

What I mean is that it's using the user selected theme, which
is better, of course. 
     
Why didn't you say that? You implied it was using a different theme.

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If LXDE could do that, even better, rather
than the default.
     
It does! ::) I can open lxdecc, click on the Configure Openbox icon, switch to any theme I want, launch clementine, and the theme is used. With clementine opened, I can switch themes, and the new theme is used immediately. In other words, no app, including clementine, is "stuck" to using the default theme only.     

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Have to ask Melodie sometime what could have triggered that,
what Clementine was looking for and found.
     
What point are you trying to make here? What exactly are you implying here?     

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Have a good one.

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What's your real complaint? First you imply that clementine uses a different theme than the rest of the system; then you say it uses the user selected theme. Those statements contradict each other.     

How about you say clearly what your problem is. You should give exact details.     

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2012, 03:48:00 AM »
Ferdes Fides,

With LXDE you have a full Desktop Environment, it has controls that enable the entire environment to be controlled, from windecs to gtk theme and icons etc (dependent on themes installed) as the Openbox iso being an iso with only a window manager and applications that use gtk you need to set those parameters separately, and there are multiple apps to do so etc.

Clementine is a QT4 app and will open in a qt style unless forced to do so by a application to allow teh system to use gtk widgets instaed of the native qt ones, there are iirc a few apps that will allow you to do this.

I would look to see which application from synaptic is installed in openbox to allow the use of gtk-themeing instead of qt, then look at your LXDE install and see if it is installed or selected there  

This appears to be a configuration issue with your local install's not a LXDE issue

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2012, 04:02:11 AM »
Did you add task-lxde to the openbox ISO? Or is this an install of the LXDE ISO?     

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2012, 08:54:16 AM »
Hi Neal and HootieG,

Here's the full situation as best as I can relate it.

In OpenBox Full only, recently installed, using LXAppearance to switch themes,
surprisingly when I installed Clementine it is using the user selected GTK theme
rather the the plain default theme I expected.   Great.   Absolutely great.

In LXDE 2011 fully upgraded, also reinstalled Clementine, and rebooted.   Cannot
get Clementine off of the plain default GTK theme which it always uses.  When I
switch GTK themes in LXDECC it has no effect on the theme Clementine uses.  So it
is an LXDE issue in that sense.  It doesn't change the GTK theme which
is the one I'm trying to change, only the openbox theme,  in reference to Clementine.

My initial reasoning was perhaps OB has a library LXDE doesn't have allowing
Clementine to see the GTK themes and use them when selected by LXAppearance.
Also, it would be a substantial betterment for LXDE if LXDE could do so for the Clementine program
and switch the GTK theme in Clementine.   IMHO

That's the best I can spell it out I think.   Need more info, ask away.

Have a good one,

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2012, 09:21:54 AM »
Ferdes Fides,

Clementine is a QT4 app it does not use GTKstylings nativly.

do a search within synaptic for the terms "qt gtk" without teh quotes, and see what is installed in teh openbox install that gives qt apps teh appearence of gtk

I suspect it will be oxygen-gtk,or qtcurve-gtk2 although it may be qgtkstyle or another cross qt/gtk rendering application  

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2012, 09:47:00 AM »

do a search within synaptic for the terms "qt gtk" without teh quotes, and see what is installed in teh openbox install that gives qt apps teh appearence of gtk


Yes, at the top of my to-do list for later today.

Thanks for the response.

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2012, 11:31:06 AM »
 ??? I do not have this problem here on my LXDE install. Hmm...... you say you reinstalled clementine? Perhaps that caused this issue......hmm.     

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2012, 01:07:08 PM »
OK, this is SOLVED.

My old LXDE 2010 fully upgraded and my LXDE 2011 fully upgraded
did not have the qgtkstyle package installed from Synaptic.

The new Clementine upgraded package is a 100% improvement and
with the qgtkstyle package installed it is a 200% improvement.   Using
the CRUX gtk theme and some color options from LXAppearance is very nice
now with Clementine in LXDE.

BG, I feel like I accomplished something today.

Thanks very much for the response(s).

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2012, 03:51:58 PM »
... and with the qgtkstyle package installed it is a 200% improvement....

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Re: LXDE and Clementine
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2012, 08:59:05 PM »
... and with the qgtkstyle package installed it is a 200% improvement....

moral - look in the stickies!

OMG...Yes I see the qt message in the sticky.   Well if you don't
talk and ask questions it's kinda hard sometimes to put 2+2
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