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Offline Archdevil

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[SOLVED]pclinuxos64
« on: January 12, 2012, 06:05:13 AM »
Hi all!

This question might have been asked before, but I could not find it on the forum:

How is the work on the 64-bit version going? Can I expect an RC-quality ISO soon, or will it take several months before the version becomes stable enough?
I know there is no roadmap, but since I have this shiny new i7 desktop, I would like to install a 64-bit distro on it.
I know I can use the 32-bit version, but am curious on how the work is going.

Thanks!

Archie
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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 06:20:04 AM »
I don't believe PCLinuxOS has ever released an RC ISO. There is no deadline or roadmap, either. It's finished when it's finished. That's always been the PCLinuxOS motto. We like it that way. Instead of buggy releases, we get solid releases. With that said, I believe the developers have been on a holiday rest, and then they've been hard at it, since. The goal is to get the 64 bit up an going, then finally get to some major releases that's we're behind on, such as KDE. I imagine the developers will end up skipping KDE 4.7, since 4.8 is almost ready to be released. Getting something like a 64 bit release ISO out is much more work than the 32 bit, since every package in the repository probably needs recompiled for 64 bit, and that take a whole lot of time.
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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 06:20:39 AM »
May want to read Neals post - which includes the address if you would like to contribute to testing the current Test Release iso's plus that will also keep you upto speed on what's occurring as well.

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,99414.0.html

The KDE Test 4 iso pclinuxos64-test04.iso

and the

lxde Test 2 iso pclinuxos64-lxde-test2.iso

are both here
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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 09:47:34 AM »
Thanks for the quick response.
My actual question was: Are these iso's stable?
I want to use kde on my main machine and I want to install something of RC quality.
How much has the 64-bit version evolved? Are there as many packages available as for the 32-bit variant?

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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2012, 09:58:18 AM »
Thanks for the quick response.
My actual question was: Are these iso's stable?
I want to use kde on my main machine and I want to install something of RC quality.
How much has the 64-bit version evolved? Are there as many packages available as for the 32-bit variant?
     
Testing, not stable. Read the post linked to below.     

No, there are not the same number of packages. It takes time to build so large a number of packages.     

Please see note 3 here:     
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,99414.0.html     

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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2012, 10:44:47 AM »
I understand the fact that you do not want info on your testing iso's "out there".

Although this makes my decision (wait for PCLInuxOS64, keep running 32-bit PCLinuxOS on my i7 or switch to another distro) a bit more difficult.
I will think this over and then decide what to do..........


With kind regards,

Archie.

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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2012, 10:56:19 AM »
I understand the fact that you do not want info on your testing iso's "out there".
     
We do not want people to get the idea that apps and/or ISOs in testing are supported. They are not.     

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Although this makes my decision (wait for PCLInuxOS64, keep running 32-bit PCLinuxOS on my i7 or switch to another distro) a bit more difficult.
I will think this over and then decide what to do..........


With kind regards,

Archie.
     
Is our 32bit not running well on your system?     

As for our 64bit release, it will be ready, when it is ready. This is a PCLinuxOS standard policy. We do not release on a timed schedule; we prefer to make it as ready for use as possible before releasing any ISO. Doing it this way means we can not plan on any particular date.     

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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2012, 11:21:45 AM »
Hi Neal,

32-Bit runs fine! I can take the pae kernel to use my 8 gb. But you may understand I feel I can really unleash the power within my system with a 64-bit system:

SysInfo: Linux 3.1.0-1.2-desktop |  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz 1600.000 MHz | Bogomips: 54270.33 | Mem: 6893/7982M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 1819.04G Free: 1633.04G | Procs: 179 | Uptime: 3 hrs 3 mins 48 secs | Load: 0.15 0.10 0.11  | Vpenis: 812.4 cm | Screen: unknown @ 1920x1080 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 223.63M Out: 14.27M

Thanks for the fast reply!

Archie

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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2012, 11:27:53 AM »

32-Bit runs fine! I can take the pae kernel to use my 8 gb. But you may understand I feel I can really unleash the power within my system with a 64-bit system:


The common misconception is that "my system will run faster with a 64bit operating system than a 32bit". After all, 64 is more than 32, right? Unless you are running CPU intensive computations, you will notice no difference between 32bit OS and apps and 64bit OS and apps.
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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2012, 07:03:59 PM »

32-Bit runs fine! I can take the pae kernel to use my 8 gb. But you may understand I feel I can really unleash the power within my system with a 64-bit system:


The common misconception is that "my system will run faster with a 64bit operating system than a 32bit". After all, 64 is more than 32, right? Unless you are running CPU intensive computations, you will notice no difference between 32bit OS and apps and 64bit OS and apps.


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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 02:37:24 AM »
I have been running Test4 for the last so many months. I will reinstall again at the announcement of the official release. I hardly use my 32-bit anymore.

The catch is report to the Mailing List. Do not post any issues on the forum. Do not expect any support. Do not ask for any apps too be packaged because the devs are very busy doing that now ... other than that, our Test4 is just as stable as any Linux 64 releases out there. If you can live with that and can take the risk, I'd say go for it.
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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2012, 04:26:28 PM »
I've been thinking of trying it out as well.  But I wonder what the advantage is other than future proofing?  Any comments? Any advantages? Does anything run faster?  I use virtualbox for my business apps and I'm on the computer everyday.

Your help is greatly appreciated,
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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 04:39:20 PM »
I've been thinking of trying it out as well.  But I wonder what the advantage is other than future proofing?  Any comments? Any advantages? Does anything run faster?  I use virtualbox for my business apps and I'm on the computer everyday.

Your help is greatly appreciated,
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Remember, it is in testing! It is not a stable release. It is not for production use. It is not supported.     

If you are going to test it, I'd recommend using a dedicated test partition or a virtual machine.     

Read this:     
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,99414.0.html     

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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2012, 04:39:34 PM »
I've been thinking of trying it out as well.  But I wonder what the advantage is other than future proofing?

Most of those who are running it are doing so for testing purposes, or to create the missing rpm packages. If you are looking for a magical speed increase in your everyday apps, you won't see any.
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Re: pclinuxos64
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2012, 06:42:54 PM »
Thanks for the help.  I was planning on a dedicated partition for it.  No way am I going to let go of the present 32 bit install.  It just works too well.  Glad to hear about speed.

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