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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2012, 03:32:51 PM »
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sometimes I feel like the "Invisible Man"  ;D

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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2012, 03:51:00 PM »
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sometimes I feel like the "Invisible Man"  ;D

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me, too...  ;D ;D



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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2012, 07:26:49 PM »
 :) as, old-polack, and El;
   You guys are awesome. I don't know what made me set the T43p and the router to the same IP. I should have known better. The desktop is 192.x.x.2, the Acer Vista laptop x.x.3 and the T23 WinXP x.x.4. We even have a Kodak AIO wireless printer at 192.x.x.6. So I'll go back and set the PCLOS T43p at 192.168.2.5. I'm pretty confident now to get this configured. Thanks again for all your efforts with this.
Sincerely,
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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2012, 06:53:58 AM »
Hi Donald!

Looks like O-P has hit the nail on the head... again  ::)  (he is THE MASTER;D

If you have sorted your problem, you need to go back and edit the header of your first post to read "PCLinux & WinXP issues [solved]".  This is to allow future searches more constructive to those looking for an answer... and also forum etiquette!  ;D

Good luck & happy surfing  ;)

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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2012, 08:12:52 AM »
 ;D Hello wharfhouse;
   Yes O-P posted what I need. As soon as I get this sorted out I will edit the topic header as I'm sure this will definitely help others as it has me. Thanks again for looking in, just something still not right yet with the settings, now can't even ping router. I'll post back with results later.
 :-[ Donald

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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2012, 11:35:14 AM »
donaldhh:

If it helps, here's my PCC static IP setup page, for reference.



Note I set my DNS servers here, not on the router. My son used different DNS servers, and had those set in the router.
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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2012, 02:25:53 PM »
 ;D O-P;
   Thanks for the page. Still nothing working here. Just 2 ?'s. Where the DNS server addresses came from. How did your hostname get configured. I'm just about at the end. I'm just wondering if I go to the router page and change to each PC static address will I crash my whole network? I changed the PCLOS T43 to 192.168.2.5 and the router does not have it listed in the DHCP client table. Everything is Auto from the router homepage.
   I even started from scratch. Removed the wireless device and re-enabled with a fresh page as yours.
 :-[ Donald
Is there a config or error file somewhere I can look into? More network commands? Thanks again.

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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2012, 02:49:55 PM »
;D O-P;
   Thanks for the page. Still nothing working here. Just 2 ?'s. Where the DNS server addresses came from. How did your hostname get configured. I'm just about at the end. I'm just wondering if I go to the router page and change to each PC static address will I crash my whole network? I changed the PCLOS T43 to 192.168.2.5 and the router does not have it listed in the DHCP client table. Everything is Auto from the router homepage.
   I even started from scratch. Removed the wireless device and re-enabled with a fresh page as yours.
 :-[ Donald
Is there a config or error file somewhere I can look into? More network commands? Thanks again.


Either you set up the IP address manually, (look like you have done it this way), or you set the T43 system to ask for IP parameters to a DHCP server, in this case you will see it listed on your router DHCP client table.

This is my config, requesting IP and DNS configuration from router/DHCP server:



Unless you have some specific reason to require a manual IP address, go for DHCP assigned IP parameters.

AS



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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2012, 03:11:49 PM »
;D O-P;
   Thanks for the page. Still nothing working here. Just 2 ?'s. Where the DNS server addresses came from. How did your hostname get configured. I'm just about at the end. I'm just wondering if I go to the router page and change to each PC static address will I crash my whole network? I changed the PCLOS T43 to 192.168.2.5 and the router does not have it listed in the DHCP client table. Everything is Auto from the router homepage.
   I even started from scratch. Removed the wireless device and re-enabled with a fresh page as yours.
 :-[ Donald
Is there a config or error file somewhere I can look into? More network commands? Thanks again.


The DNS numbers came from the DNS server I chose to use.

See here:   http://www.tech-faq.com/public-dns-servers.html

The hostname got configured by typing in what I wanted it to be.
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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2012, 06:29:08 PM »
 ;D Thanks AS and O-P;
   I'll keep at this using the tips you experts have offered. I'll start from scratch again with the blank Wireless page and use Auto. Thanks o-p for the DNS tip. I didn't realize this was an option to us common folk at home. Also the host name info tip. Hopefully I can report back with good news.
Have a Great One!
 :( Donald

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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2012, 11:30:00 AM »
Yeah, DHCP is always a lot easier to use, and all broadband routers support it.  Make sure to post back if that still does not work.  Also, sorry if you posted this, but does the PCLOS machine work if you connect it via a wired connection?

What else is cool is that if you buy a really nice router that support proxy arp, you can set your own machine to the default gateway, and it will work :-p. 

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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2012, 01:22:23 PM »
 :) Hey German Tux;
   Tried from scratch again set to Atuo, no luck, disconnects almost immediately. Haven't tried the PCLOS at the wired connection yet. That was my next step, to see if it is the wireless NIC not setting up or just the Linux networking in general. Anyway, I'll also check up on the new router with the spec you suggested.
   Any thoughts about "dmesg" firmware alerts. Says something to the effect the BIOS and Embedded Controller are not up to date and may have other issues. I am aware these need to be flashed, haven't got there yet. Could this disrupt things through the ACPI part of the kernel with networking ?
Have a Good One,
 :-[ Donald

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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2012, 07:08:18 PM »
:) Hey German Tux;
   Tried from scratch again set to Atuo, no luck, disconnects almost immediately. Haven't tried the PCLOS at the wired connection yet. That was my next step, to see if it is the wireless NIC not setting up or just the Linux networking in general. Anyway, I'll also check up on the new router with the spec you suggested.
   Any thoughts about "dmesg" firmware alerts. Says something to the effect the BIOS and Embedded Controller are not up to date and may have other issues. I am aware these need to be flashed, haven't got there yet. Could this disrupt things through the ACPI part of the kernel with networking ?
Have a Good One,
 :-[ Donald

OK, so your wireless card is not even working properly then.  do you know the hardware model of your wireless NIC?  Something tells me the kernel does not like it.  Oh, and do not bother with a router with proxy arp.  It would cost >$800. 

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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2012, 07:57:16 PM »
German Tux;
   NIC is Intel PRO/Wireless 2200bg (Calerico). Driver is ver. 1.2.2. I did find a firmware update for it but haven't patched it yet. I still think this is a DNS issue on the router end. Tried it wired, first on AUTO same quick disconnect. Second on manual with same wireless settings, network up, no Internet connection. Just doesn't make sense, all 3 of our Windows machines have been up on auto DHCP almost 3 years now on a Belkin router, all visible and shareable on our home LAN. I was trying to use this as a stand-in till I can get a new HDD for the T43p. Oh well.
Thanks,
 :( Donald

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Re: PCLinuxOS & WinXP issues
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2012, 11:39:28 AM »
German Tux;
   NIC is Intel PRO/Wireless 2200bg (Calerico). Driver is ver. 1.2.2. I did find a firmware update for it but haven't patched it yet. I still think this is a DNS issue on the router end. Tried it wired, first on AUTO same quick disconnect. Second on manual with same wireless settings, network up, no Internet connection. Just doesn't make sense, all 3 of our Windows machines have been up on auto DHCP almost 3 years now on a Belkin router, all visible and shareable on our home LAN. I was trying to use this as a stand-in till I can get a new HDD for the T43p. Oh well.
Thanks,
 :( Donald

If this is a DNS problem, then you should be able to ping outside addresses regardless.  Try pinging Google's DNS server:

Konsole->ping 8.8.8.8 <enter>      -      do you get a reply?

That's good (sort of) that it happened on the wired connection too.  It means that it is not a wireless issue. 

You can test DNs buy automatically acquiring a DHCP address, while using static DNS servers.  Use 4.2.2.1 & 8.8.8.8 in the DNS settings, and see if that makes a difference.  My guess is that it will not.