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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #60 on: January 03, 2012, 01:27:00 PM »
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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #61 on: January 03, 2012, 01:27:22 PM »
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Most of folks will own a desktop and a laptop or maybe 2 laptops... but if someone asks about 20 or 30 different machines (2 or 3 a day) then something is not right.

Hahahaha ....  I am outed!

I counted as a result of your post ......  15 computers in this room alone .....  including one laptop  ;D ;D ;D  ......  3 printers (3-in-1) and two scanners ......  PCs are ....

4 IBM
5 Dell
1 Toshiba laptop
1 Gateway
1 Fujitsu
3 Ownbuilt

I guess it is just as well they don't all go wrong together  ;D  :D  ;D

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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #62 on: January 03, 2012, 01:42:36 PM »
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Most of folks will own a desktop and a laptop or maybe 2 laptops... but if someone asks about 20 or 30 different machines (2 or 3 a day) then something is not right.

Hahahaha ....  I am outed!

I counted as a result of your post ......  15 computers in this room alone .....  including one laptop  ;D ;D ;D  ......  3 printers (3-in-1) and two scanners ......  PCs are ....

4 IBM
5 Dell
1 Toshiba laptop
1 Gateway
1 Fujitsu
3 Ownbuilt

I guess it is just as well they don't all go wrong together  ;D  :D  ;D

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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2012, 01:45:15 PM »
Ok some clarity from my POV.

there are 3 issues here

1> Dishonesty -

selling/installing PCLinuxOS and the claiming to be able to offer (paid)support.

2 Abuse -

abuse of the forum and irc the community and you. - having claimed they can support the install they hit an issue, lacking any real knowledge they post on the forum (and the complain the responses are too slow and that the person is gone) == nore is the poster willing to learn or put time into learning   

3 Reputation Risk

this is te biggest issue, if some one is dishonest to perpetrate no1 then what to say that other actions are not being carried out. we dont want their actions to give PCLinuxOS a bad rep
 
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Over the years we have had a user ( hi "Ri Anne are you still Koul?") who was caught out as to having his own website where he was claiming to have created a live-dvd OS that he called his own  and was selling paid support annd claimed it was superior and not in anyway pclinuxos - however when someone managed to get a copy , all it was was a themed PCLinuxOS with an extra few apps (from the repo (infact PASS) when e was caught out red handed he ran.  

Another forum user a few years go was asking a lot of remaster questions and dependency questions and was producing a version which quite frankly was broke beyond belief - ( big hi to "justu SA")

Yet another person was found to be selling a tampered PCLinuxOS Remaster on ebay but passing on support to the forum, his tampering was found out and the users advised to reinstall with an "official"  iso

We will never be able to stop the above from happening, but what we can do is attempt to minimize the effect  they have on our forum and with our community

This is why the call was issued - consider it either a wake up call or a call to (defensive) arms

Its also an attempt to safe guard Texstar's living so that he can continue to offer a great world class operating system if the OS gets a poor rep, Texstar earns less,

If bottom feeders are living off our knowledge that would freely been given - the community suffers due to that one persons dishonesty

All the above happens everywhere within FOSS, we just decided to speak up about it to our wonderful community as there is strength in numbers and we as a community should abhor all that threaten us whether directly or indirectly.

I think this is a bigger threat to us than what microsoft poses

Jase
« Last Edit: January 03, 2012, 01:47:56 PM by Hootiegibbon »


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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2012, 02:06:08 PM »
I think this is a bigger threat to us than what microsoft poses

Jase

A big +1 to that.

Not only do these people take our time but they might really ruin the reputation of PCLinuxOS and Linux in general. And thus Texstar's life base.

I will be vigilant and report if I get suspicious.

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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #65 on: January 03, 2012, 03:14:31 PM »
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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #66 on: January 03, 2012, 03:52:56 PM »

Lucky I'm here to ask the dumb questions  ;) . ( I'm not quite as silly as I may act, I just like to make clear for a reader who may have little general knowledge on the issues, as I did initially. )
Opening up these topics are worth me seeming a bit dumb, I feel.


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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #67 on: January 03, 2012, 04:18:48 PM »
Ok some clarity from my POV.

there are 3 issues here

1> Dishonesty -

selling/installing PCLinuxOS and the claiming to be able to offer (paid)support.

2 Abuse -

abuse of the forum and irc the community and you. - having claimed they can support the install they hit an issue, lacking any real knowledge they post on the forum (and the complain the responses are too slow and that the person is gone) == nore is the poster willing to learn or put time into learning   

3 Reputation Risk

this is te biggest issue, if some one is dishonest to perpetrate no1 then what to say that other actions are not being carried out. we dont want their actions to give PCLinuxOS a bad rep
 
Quote from: EXAMPLES
Over the years we have had a user ( hi "Ri Anne are you still Koul?") who was caught out as to having his own website where he was claiming to have created a live-dvd OS that he called his own  and was selling paid support annd claimed it was superior and not in anyway pclinuxos - however when someone managed to get a copy , all it was was a themed PCLinuxOS with an extra few apps (from the repo (infact PASS) when e was caught out red handed he ran.  

Another forum user a few years go was asking a lot of remaster questions and dependency questions and was producing a version which quite frankly was broke beyond belief - ( big hi to "justu SA")

Yet another person was found to be selling a tampered PCLinuxOS Remaster on ebay but passing on support to the forum, his tampering was found out and the users advised to reinstall with an "official"  iso

We will never be able to stop the above from happening, but what we can do is attempt to minimize the effect  they have on our forum and with our community

This is why the call was issued - consider it either a wake up call or a call to (defensive) arms

Its also an attempt to safe guard Texstar's living so that he can continue to offer a great world class operating system if the OS gets a poor rep, Texstar earns less,

If bottom feeders are living off our knowledge that would freely been given - the community suffers due to that one persons dishonesty

All the above happens everywhere within FOSS, we just decided to speak up about it to our wonderful community as there is strength in numbers and we as a community should abhor all that threaten us whether directly or indirectly.

I think this is a bigger threat to us than what microsoft poses

Jase


+10 Jase is right..Well explained.... 8) :)
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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #68 on: January 03, 2012, 04:26:56 PM »
What djohnston said!     

I get upset when someone says "I am dumb" or "I ask dumb questions," so I usually remain quiet so as to not let my upset come through in my response. Seeking knowledge can never be dumb. A person seeking knowledge is a smart person. Period. I give no leeway on this. That's my personal position.     
IMO, anyone who has taken the step of installing PCLinuxOS and of coming here to ask a question has shown him/herself to be above average smart.     

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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2012, 04:59:23 PM »
What djohnston said!     

I get upset when someone says "I am dumb" or "I ask dumb questions," so I usually remain quiet so as to not let my upset come through in my response. Seeking knowledge can never be dumb. A person seeking knowledge is a smart person. Period. I give no leeway on this. That's my personal position.     
IMO, anyone who has taken the step of installing PCLinuxOS and of coming here to ask a question has shown him/herself to be above average smart.     
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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2012, 07:06:28 PM »
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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #71 on: January 03, 2012, 07:12:12 PM »
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Most of folks will own a desktop and a laptop or maybe 2 laptops... but if someone asks about 20 or 30 different machines (2 or 3 a day) then something is not right.

Hahahaha ....  I am outed!

I counted as a result of your post ......  15 computers in this room alone .....  including one laptop  ;D ;D ;D  ......  3 printers (3-in-1) and two scanners ......  PCs are ....

4 IBM
5 Dell
1 Toshiba laptop
1 Gateway
1 Fujitsu
3 Ownbuilt

I guess it is just as well they don't all go wrong together  ;D  :D  ;D

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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #72 on: January 03, 2012, 07:27:24 PM »
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Most of folks will own a desktop and a laptop or maybe 2 laptops... but if someone asks about 20 or 30 different machines (2 or 3 a day) then something is not right.

Hahahaha ....  I am outed!

I counted as a result of your post ......  15 computers in this room alone .....  including one laptop  ;D ;D ;D  ......  3 printers (3-in-1) and two scanners ......  PCs are ....

4 IBM
5 Dell
1 Toshiba laptop
1 Gateway
1 Fujitsu
3 Ownbuilt

I guess it is just as well they don't all go wrong together  ;D  :D  ;D

ESB must love You :)

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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #73 on: January 03, 2012, 07:31:59 PM »
Whoah! 15 'puters and still no room for a CD/DVD drive?  ???
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Re: A call to the community
« Reply #74 on: January 03, 2012, 07:46:50 PM »
Whoah! 15 'puters and still no room for a CD/DVD drive?  ???


a working one ......  ;)

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Have internal one, but it won't work for some reason .....  IDE problem it seems and no SATA ports available on this PC  :D  all used by HDDs  ;D
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