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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2011, 08:26:10 AM »
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but there's a Gentoo kernel underneath that GUI that's made to look like Windows. The live CD for Acronis is running Linux.
Do you perhaps have a link to support that statement.
Didn't find it in the wiki
I would love to have that, as my dear brother is using Acronis and hates linux
Hmm... looks kind of like Acronis doesn't want this to be the first thing you see.  (In the minds of most of us Linux = Free, so we'd be less inclined to pay for something like this.)
And also, in the minds of some of us in the Linux community (not me, necessarily), this would leave them open to scorn:
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Description
Acronis True Image Home 2012 supports the following operating systems:

Windows XP SP3
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition SP2
Windows Vista SP2 (both x32 and x64 versions, all editions)
Windows 7 (both x32 and x64 versions, all editions)
Windows Home Server 2011
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(!) Linux operating system is not supported.
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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2011, 09:36:17 AM »
Looks like I got my Acronis 11 in time.

Description

Acronis True Image Home 2011 supports the following file systems:
FAT16/32
NTFS
Ext2/Ext3/Ext4*
ReiserFS*
Linux SWAP*

*The Ext2/Ext3/Ext4, ReiserFS, and Linux SWAP file systems are supported only for disk or partition backup/recovery operations.

The blurb for 12 does have a line for raw images, but that would be like going back to M$DOS & Norton Ghost.


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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2011, 09:42:14 AM »
The 2012 version support those files systems, too; it's the OS support that's lacking...

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/#requirements

...so, okay, I will heap scorn on them for that! ;)
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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2011, 10:05:47 AM »
BTW, Hiren's latest BootCD has a nice collection of freeware and shareware image backup tools, along with a boatload of other tools that may be useful even to us Linux users, including answers to the perennial question "OMG I lost all my files what now?": PhotoRec and Recuva. A word of caution here - it stinks to be under the pressure of getting stuff back AND having to learn how to use the software that does it - practice NOW is the best policy!

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My only problem with Hiren's is that it gets updated so often that I have a lot of old scarcely-used CDs around... :)
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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2011, 11:04:28 AM »
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The 2012 version support those files systems, too; it's the OS support that's lacking...

Ok, I understand now.   To install Acronis and make a live CD/USB you need a windoze OS, Has that not always been the case.

Made my Acronis USB from inside a winXP VM, but the live USB most certainly does backup & restore linux OS's.

One problem I have is my newest machine, with Athon quadcore and (problomatic) Nvidia chipset. So far nothing USB made with unetbootin will boot, tried all the above suggestions also PING. Only success with Acronis.

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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2011, 01:20:06 PM »

To install Acronis and make a live CD/USB you need a windoze OS, Has that not always been the case.


The versions of Acronis you install to hard drive are made for Windows boxes. Acronis also makes live CD versions which need no installation. You boot the live CD in order to do the backups and restorations. The live CDs are the ones running a Linux kernel. I first discovered this at work about four years ago when an Acronis live CD bootup failed to finish the full boot sequence due to faulty hardware on the PC. I spent a couple of hours digging around to see what I could find out. They also use some third party utilities to do file compression. The layout of their ISO images are definitely not normal.

The shop where I worked had to pay a royalty on every disk image shipped to a customer that was created with Acronis. When it came to renew the contract, I asked the salesman about the Gentoo kernel. He seemed surprised I knew of it.
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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2011, 07:01:06 PM »
Heh... yeah, I can just hear him now:

"What?  We're innocent, I tell ya!"

<scrapes tin cup on the bars>

This is just so typical of people who don't really "get" Linux, but who won't hesitate to rape its open source corpus to make a quick buck.  Regrettable, really. :(

Oh, I backed up my (nearly empty) Terabyte with Redo Backup.  Took a 14 gig load and compressed it down to just over 8 gigs, did the job in under an hour.  Not too shabby.  Quite stable.  (Still not quite as fast or compact as Clonezilla, but, hey, everything's a trade-off.  The GUI is clean, simple, and easy to use.  Definitely gets a thumbs-up from yours truly.)

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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2011, 09:56:28 AM »
...Oh, I backed up my (nearly empty) Terabyte with Redo Backup.  Took a 14 gig load and compressed it down to just over 8 gigs, did the job in under an hour.  Not too shabby.  Quite stable.  (Still not quite as fast or compact as Clonezilla, but, hey, everything's a trade-off.  The GUI is clean, simple, and easy to use.  Definitely gets a thumbs-up from yours truly.)

Take a look at Redo Backup and Recovery at

 http://redobackup.org/

I've been using this for well over a year without any problems arising!
Thanks guys, hadn't seen this before and it looks interesting. I've downloaded it and will give it a try asap.
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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2011, 10:03:12 AM »
Jeddaboy,

I noticed you mentioned Image Magick as a backuo. Sorry, that's a photo/graphics manipulation app.  :D
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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos. Solved.
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2011, 05:15:55 PM »
Hi All and thanks for your replies and suggestions. I got myself Acronis True Image 2012 and it actually recognizes the PCLos partitions as EXT4 and it will also let me do a high density compression image of  /root and /home. Gives all the same options as it does for NTFS partitions which is great. It always worked well in times of trouble but the image will now be far smaller using the new version of Acronis thank goodness. Cheers all and a very happy new year to everyone.
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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos. Solved.
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2012, 08:33:24 PM »
Hi Again,
             I invested in Acronis True Image 2012 and like another member said, it backs up only the data and gives all the same compression and priority options as it does for winylows. I am now running Full Monty, checked in Synaptic for My live CD. Its says its installed but im stuffed if i can find it in the Full Monty menu. I like to do one of those as well if i can jusst find it to run it !!! Thankyou all for your help.
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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos. Solved.
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2012, 09:21:22 PM »
Hi Jeddaboy,

myliveCD is a command line programme only (no GUI), so you won't find it in the menu.

I recently successfully made a couple of myliveCDs (for the first time).  I referred to Andy's excellent article:


for guidance.

I got a lot of help from as, Just18 and AndrzejL (Andy) on this thread:


Just be aware that myliveCD is restricted in the size of the data that it can process, so your Full Monty installation may need some manipulation/trimming to work.  This is explained well in various threads in the forums.

Good luck.

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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos. Solved.
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2012, 02:55:05 AM »
Hi Steven. Seems to me MyLiVEcD WON'T CUT IT with the size of full monty. Its been yesrs since i was using it now and again. Doe's it not have the option to write to a create a Live DVD? That would do the job. Just asking out of interest. Thanks for your input mate.
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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos. Solved.
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2012, 04:05:34 AM »
Yes Jeddaboy, the remasters that I made with it were DVD (size).

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Re: Image Backups Of PCLos. Solved.
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2012, 04:19:38 AM »
Thanks Mate. So it does give you the option of "create live dvd" or some thing along those lines. If i temporarily move a heap of music, video's etcc out of /home i should get it onto a DVD.
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