[Solved] Feature suggestion: minimize synaptic in the system tray?

[abetteruser]

Good night

I think it would be a neat feature to have  synaptic minized in the system tray, (like the netapp, klipper or batti icon, for instance) when the user click on the button "minimize" on the window button. such feature I remember was present on another distro, simplymepis (used the kde too), and I found it very nice, especially if combined with the synaptic ability to tell the user when software updates are avaiable, installable with the package "update-notifier" (I searched the web a little and discovered about that)

It may/will/going to be done?

Thanks in anticipation, whatever will be (if any) answer(s)  

[Neal ManBear]

You're asking that an application that runs with root privileges be left open and running in the system tray? No. No way. No how. It would be a security risk.      

Update notifier will tell you when updates are available, if you have it installed and configured. Click its icon in the system tray to open its dialog from which you can open synaptic. You'll need to give root's password, of course. This has the advantage of being secure; i.e. it doesn't leave your system open to the world.      

[Archie]

Most Linux users intend to make their systems SECURE ... quite different from Windows users who are logon with admin premissions. Linux users who logon as root are shunned upon because obviously they have no clue to an important Linux ideology ... SECURITY.

No developers will add a bad feature to Synaptic to only make it minimize to the systray on close. That will require the root password to be reauthenticated in intervals and you do not want that ... well, most of us do not want that. So, this is really a bad idea and a proposal that is not going anywhere.

Thank you for suggesting it though. I hope that you will understand our concerns, and reevaluate your thinking on this matter.

[djohnston]

abetteruser,

I can't determine whether you know that update-notifier is available in the repositories. Just open Synaptic and install. You'll be notified of any updates available, right from the system tray. And, it will give you the option to install available updates.

[abetteruser]

at the moment, update-notifier isn't avaiable in repos as 64 bit package 

thanks again for your explanations.

[Neal ManBear]

at the moment, update-notifier isn't avaiable in repos as 64 bit package  

thanks again for your explanations.

   
  64bit is in testing. It is not supported at this time. That is, there is no supported release; there is only a test release. You should not try to use it as your main system until there is an official, supported release.    
We have a mailing list for reporting the results of testing. Note: test reporting only should go to the list. No support questions are to be asked.    
http://groups.google.com/group/pclinuxos-testers    

Edit: Post no more support questions about 64bit PCLinuxOS. This is not negotiable.     

[MtnMan]

You're asking that an application that runs with root privileges be left open and running in the system tray? No. No way. No how. It would be a security risk.      

Update notifier will tell you when updates are available, if you have it installed and configured. Click its icon in the system tray to open its dialog from which you can open synaptic. You'll need to give root's password, of course. This has the advantage of being secure; i.e. it doesn't leave your system open to the world.      

Neal> Sure about this?  On my LXDE install it asks for user password (doesn't work with root password) so I disabled it.
 

[Neal ManBear]

You're asking that an application that runs with root privileges be left open and running in the system tray? No. No way. No how. It would be a security risk.      

Update notifier will tell you when updates are available, if you have it installed and configured. Click its icon in the system tray to open its dialog from which you can open synaptic. You'll need to give root's password, of course. This has the advantage of being secure; i.e. it doesn't leave your system open to the world.      

Neal> Sure about this?  On my LXDE install it asks for user password (doesn't work with root password) so I disabled it.

     
Yes. The launching of synaptic always requires root's password. What did you do to set it to require the user password? Set up sudo?      

[MtnMan]

You're asking that an application that runs with root privileges be left open and running in the system tray? No. No way. No how. It would be a security risk.      

Update notifier will tell you when updates are available, if you have it installed and configured. Click its icon in the system tray to open its dialog from which you can open synaptic. You'll need to give root's password, of course. This has the advantage of being secure; i.e. it doesn't leave your system open to the world.      

Neal> Sure about this?  On my LXDE install it asks for user password (doesn't work with root password) so I disabled it.

     
Yes. The launching of synaptic always requires root's password. What did you do to set it to require the user password? Set up sudo?      

Nuttin - I swear. IIRC after the install and the obligatory updates, the notifier at some point (day?) later, changed appearance as there were updates.  A dialog asked for password and after a few failed attempts with root password, I looked closer and saw that it was asking for password for pat - which worked and it installed the updates.  If I did something to make that happen I am unaware.  I thought it was not good to have it that way and was not too interested in using it anyway.

[rubentje1991]

Probably there is some setting customized in PCLinuxOS Control Center >> Security >> Configure authentication for PCLinuxOS tools
=> there is a frame about Software Management: the drop down boxes are empty at default state (in live cd)
: if you set "root password" in that drop down boxes, it will ask for root password in the future as far as I know   

[MtnMan]

Probably there is some setting customized in PCLinuxOS Control Center >> Security >> Configure authentication for PCLinuxOS tools
=> there is a frame about Software Management: the drop down boxes are empty at default state (in live cd)
: if you set "root password" in that drop down boxes, it will ask for root password in the future as far as I know   

It is only the update notifier wanting user password everything else that should have root password - including synaptic - behaves as expected.  It is like that installed state too - same as FullMonty. 

[Archie]

I don't use it so I won't know but I think the best person to answer your query would be the dev who wrote the app.

[abetteruser]

You're asking that an application that runs with root privileges be left open and running in the system tray? No. No way. No how. It would be a security risk.    

Update notifier will tell you when updates are available, if you have it installed and configured. Click its icon in the system tray to open its dialog from which you can open synaptic. You'll need to give root's password, of course. This has the advantage of being secure; i.e. it doesn't leave your system open to the world.    

ok, it's clear now

[Edit: Post no more support questions about 64bit PCLinuxOS. This is not negotiable.    

this too  

I would only kindly poitn out that question above was just to enquire about that feature, not for 64 bit support purpose.

I'm gonna lock this topic, just to be safe

edit: sry I forgotto tell thanks to everybody here!