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« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2011, 04:32:27 PM » |
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Hi Melodie,
Yes, that's clear. I mean, once you have a CD drive ... why you need the USB ? Isn't enough to boot a CD ISO image ?
You burn a bootstrap CD once, and for long. Then you can start as many versions from USB as you wish (or at least many and many times) and spare further CD's. |
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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2011, 04:34:49 PM » |
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Hi Melodie,
Yes, that's clear. I mean, once you have a CD drive ... why you need the USB ? Isn't enough to boot a CD ISO image ?
You burn a bootstrap CD once, and for long. Then you can start as many versions from USB as you wish (or at least many and many times) and spare further CD's. Thank you! That's what I was missing.  |
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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2011, 04:38:54 PM » |
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If you create a CD meant to activate USB the same way, I'll add it there too.
 what am' I missing here ? Hi, Just19 prepared a floppy image ready to burn to floppy to boot from USB on machines where the bios can't provide this feature. See the links above... Hi Melodie, Yes, that's clear. I mean, once you have a CD drive ... why you need the USB ? Isn't enough to boot a CD ISO image ? One reason might be to give the option to boot one of several different versions from a USB device, rather than have several CDs ... one for each. Also it is simple to keep the USB device updated, whereas the several CDs, each with one version of PCLOS, would need to be replaced every time an updated ISO was released. It is very likely that the USB would also boot much quicker than a CD in an old drive ... the modern compression can be a serious problem for some of those older drives. So, yes there may be some reason to do this ..... regards. EDIT ..... I see Melodie already answered  |
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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2011, 04:44:11 PM » |
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It is very likely that the USB would also boot much quicker than a CD in an old drive ... the modern compression can be a serious problem for some of those older drives. So, yes there may be some reason to do this ..... regards. EDIT ..... I see Melodie already answered  In USB 1.1 it is not fast at all. I have a T30 which can boot from USB, I have installed from there several times, so I can tell you. However one more good reason to boot from USB imo is that it is a much safer way to transfer datas, compared to CD. I have sometimes failed an install (bad install had to redo it) from a CD, that has not happened yet to me with a pendrive. |
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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2011, 04:55:12 PM » |
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In USB 1.1 it is not fast at all How does it compare to a CD boot? I would expect it to be faster ..... is it not? |
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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2011, 05:32:50 PM » |
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In USB 1.1 it is not fast at all How does it compare to a CD boot? I would expect it to be faster ..... is it not? While USB 1.0 is limited to 1.5 Mbit/s, USB 1.1 should reach the speed of 12 Mbit/s ~= 1.5 Mbyte/s ... rougly a 12x CD ... In practice, because of some overhead, the real speed could be a little less than the above. |
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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2011, 05:36:34 PM » |
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In USB 1.1 it is not fast at all How does it compare to a CD boot? I would expect it to be faster ..... is it not? While USB 1.0 is limited to 1.5 Mbit/s, USB 1.1 should reach the speed of 12 Mbit/s ~= 1.5 Mbyte/s ... rougly a 12x CD ... In practice, because of some overhead, the real speed could be a little less than the above. If it is old hardware then the USB is likely to be faster than the CD, I think ... |
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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2011, 05:57:30 PM » |
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Maybe my T30 is usb 1 : I didn't check, thinking that being just very much slower than usb2... it is anyhow slow. I don't think that it is slower than a CD anyhow, and also it's nice because it's not noisy. |
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« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2011, 06:09:43 PM » |
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Maybe my T30 is usb 1 : I didn't check, thinking that being just very much slower than usb2... it is anyhow slow. I don't think that it is slower than a CD anyhow, and also it's nice because it's not noisy. there is a small utility, available in repo, that show out all specs about USB ports/devices: usbview |
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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2011, 12:54:23 AM » |
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I mean, once you have a CD drive ... why you need the USB ? Isn't enough to boot a CD ISO image ?
There's always the rare case where one may have an internal floppy but not an internal CD drive. In that case, one would have to boot from a USB stick or from an external USB CD drive.
While USB 1.0 is limited to 1.5 Mbit/s, USB 1.1 should reach the speed of 12 Mbit/s ~= 1.5 Mbyte/s ... rougly a 12x CD ...
In practice, because of some overhead, the real speed could be a little less than the above.
If it is old hardware then the USB is likely to be faster than the CD, I think ...
The PCI USB card I booted the USB stick from is a 1.1 version. I would guesstimate that the boot speed is roughly 3X as fast as a CD burned at 4X booted from the same machine, just like as said. |
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« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2011, 01:03:13 PM » |
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Hope my eyes are deceiving me (wouldn't be the first time), but it appears that the description on the main web site has the old 2010.11 data, not the new release data. Here's what appears below the first graphic on my screen: Release Date: 11-08-2010
Size: 686MB
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Info: PCLinuxOS 2010.11 Openbox Edition provides a full featured desktop showcasing the small, fast, and fully compliant Openbox Window Manager. |
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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2011, 01:14:31 PM » |
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Hope my eyes are deceiving me (wouldn't be the first time), but it appears that the description on the main web site has the old 2010.11 data, not the new release data. Here's what appears below the first graphic on my screen: Release Date: 11-08-2010
Size: 686MB
Md5Sum: 9b9f94f36beeaf582cab90b4fa272073
Produced by: Melodie
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Info: PCLinuxOS 2010.11 Openbox Edition provides a full featured desktop showcasing the small, fast, and fully compliant Openbox Window Manager. You are perfectly right. Else from that main site page: Features: Kernel 2.6.33.7-bfs kernel for maximum desktop performance. ... Highlighted Applications: abiword-2.8.6 – Word processoraudacious-2.4.0 – Audio playertoo many things have changed in the full Openbox since last year. It also uses Lxpanel instead of tint2, and bonsai has the tint2 instead of lxpanel... and since the recent updates we also have icons in the right-click menu. Only Texstar can change that page. Texstar, could we kindly ask you to switch for djohnston's new presentation please ? Regards, Mélodie |
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« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2011, 02:22:08 PM » |
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Hope my eyes are deceiving me (wouldn't be the first time), but it appears that the description on the main web site has the old 2010.11 data, not the new release data. Here's what appears below the first graphic on my screen: Release Date: 11-08-2010
Size: 686MB
Md5Sum: 9b9f94f36beeaf582cab90b4fa272073
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Info: PCLinuxOS 2010.11 Openbox Edition provides a full featured desktop showcasing the small, fast, and fully compliant Openbox Window Manager. Did you miss the part at the top of the page that says. Currently being updated. |
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« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2011, 02:27:46 PM » |
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Did you miss the part at the top of the page that says.
Currently being updated.
Hello Texstar, I hope you can update the description, for sure. Thanks, Mélodie |
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« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2011, 02:30:03 PM » |
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Hope my eyes are deceiving me (wouldn't be the first time), but it appears that the description on the main web site has the old 2010.11 data, not the new release data. Here's what appears below the first graphic on my screen: Release Date: 11-08-2010
Size: 686MB
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Info: PCLinuxOS 2010.11 Openbox Edition provides a full featured desktop showcasing the small, fast, and fully compliant Openbox Window Manager. Did you miss the part at the top of the page that says. Currently being updated.Yep, shore 'nuf did!! |
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