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« Reply #135 on: February 08, 2012, 01:46:54 PM » |
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pags: Likewise, if you "do nothing" (make no conscious, alternate choice with regard to settings, etc), then you get the "default" settings. Yep, your right on the ball pags, I "Get it" - but wouldn't 'preferred' setting have been more appropriate ? Not to worry  Well..."preferred" may imply that they are somehow optimal, or best, and we all know that can't be the case for everyone (otherwise, why would we have "preferences"?)  ("You can change your settings to this or that, but actually those are preferred!")   |
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« Reply #137 on: February 08, 2012, 01:57:04 PM » |
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Dang! Another one got away! ... ...and, I swear, it was this big!  |
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« Reply #138 on: February 08, 2012, 10:11:55 PM » |
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[snip]...There are lots and lots of setting we come across, each requiring research, or reading a manual, it takes time. When you get it it is a real break through, then you move on, ...
At the moment I have an attitude that if anywhere it says 'Advanced', and it is not critical to go down that avenue, I don't. I've been using PCLinuxOS as Dual boot for around 3 three years, and as the sole, single operating system over six months. Till, "I get it" I'm not using Advanced settings, as I'd just be guessing. In time I'll know more and will head down the advanced path with the understanding why I am doing so....[/snip]
Abraxas, with Linux, it's not "all or nothing". You can set up an environment that will allow you total freedom to explore, mess up, prod and poke around until you figure things out and it is quite simple to do. Set up VirtualBox from the repo and install any of the available PCLinuxOSs. When you start up VirtualBox, make a "Snapshot" and play till you figure some things out. If you mess something up, it's only the VirtualBox that gets messed up and if you take a snapshot first, just roll it back to before you started. No risk and there is practically no way to mess up your main install. I am not assuming you didn't know this but from your post one might. |
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« Reply #139 on: February 08, 2012, 11:40:59 PM » |
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Abraxas, with Linux, it's not "all or nothing". You can set up an environment that will allow you total freedom to explore, mess up, prod and poke around until you figure things out and it is quite simple to do. Thanks Rudge; I'm probably expressing a desire to not 'play' around with things like Virtual Box, and just see what's going on online. The experience with my Mother has obviously thrown me into a state of shock .   It's something I've never done (Browse for fun !) as I've studied at tertiary level, but studying 'IT' is a bad rub, as the whole thing gets thrown up in the air once week and you have to re-learn everything, using your common semse, so working out and about is great fun, helping people who have changed the Default settings, in Windows, in the wild. Although I work with Windows, going to community centres helping people who have varied problems, under the guise of my wonderful employer 'Green P.C.', although I hate Windows, the general community uses it, ... I could throw together a Batch file to make you an omelette in windows. In Linux, I have all I would always have used in windows, without the hassle, and when after a hard day at work I sit to use Linux, I don't want to do config stuff, just play, relax, invent. All's good, great commumnity here, and off I go, into the wild to solve an afternoon win breakdown, 20 Km's away. Yep, all's good, as long as no one asks me a question, which takes me back to helping my Mother - she asked every question possible I shall delve deeper into PCLinuxOS given confidence there are people here to help if I stuff up. "Aggressive Postings don't solve problems" |
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« Reply #140 on: February 09, 2012, 12:00:30 AM » |
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I understand. I don't know much about nuclear physics but I still enjoy a good sun set by the beach. LOL |
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« Reply #141 on: February 09, 2012, 01:36:30 AM » |
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4.) Don't ever let on you know anything about Computers to friends or family !!
You didn't know that one? Poor blighter .... The other one you can use is the "oh - you use Windows? Sorry, can't help you - too difficult. I use PCLinuxOS." line .... Worth a shot ... |
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« Reply #142 on: February 09, 2012, 01:59:56 AM » |
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4.) Don't ever let on you know anything about Computers to friends or family !!
You didn't know that one? Poor blighter .... The other one you can use is the "oh - you use Windows? Sorry, can't help you - too difficult. I use PCLinuxOS." line .... Worth a shot ... It's frustrating when those of us that know most about computers, can't get those whom know less, to listen. |
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« Reply #143 on: February 09, 2012, 09:13:36 AM » |
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4.) Don't ever let on you know anything about Computers to friends or family !!
You didn't know that one? Poor blighter .... The other one you can use is the "oh - you use Windows? Sorry, can't help you - too difficult. I use PCLinuxOS." line .... Worth a shot ... I actually use a line similar to that because I really have never been a Windows user and am not adept enough to be helpful. I can rescue files with a live PCLinuxOS and that's about it, LOL. |
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« Reply #144 on: February 09, 2012, 09:21:48 AM » |
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I can rescue files with a live PCLinuxOS and that's about it, LOL.
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« Reply #145 on: February 09, 2012, 10:40:01 AM » |
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I can rescue files with a live PCLinuxOS and that's about it, LOL.
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« Reply #146 on: February 09, 2012, 10:52:41 AM » |
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I can rescue files with a live PCLinuxOS and that's about it, LOL.
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« Reply #147 on: February 10, 2012, 01:14:43 AM » |
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Aren't most of them already logged in as administrator, which is what usually gets them in trouble in the first place? In Windows 6 (Vista) they (M$) copied the Linux method of using Admin ( / , or root) to change 'Advanced', even real simple settings. They did it so badly that you had to basically be logged in as Admin to use the system, or spend all day logging in and out of User to Admin. Vista (Win 6) was a complete disaster, for many reasons. M$ promptly brought out Win 7 (win 6.1) basically a bug fix of Vista. All Win Systems are basically 3.1, with more eye candy. To think 95% of the World's Computer User's run Windows is incomprehensible. I use Linux |
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« Reply #148 on: February 10, 2012, 07:52:21 AM » |
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I understand. I don't know much about nuclear physics but I still enjoy a good sun set by the beach. LOL Have to agree with you there Rudge. Sun rise isn't too bad either. |
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« Reply #149 on: February 10, 2012, 08:21:12 AM » |
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Aren't most of them already logged in as administrator, which is what usually gets them in trouble in the first place? In Windows 6 (Vista) they (M$) copied the Linux method of using Admin ( / , or root) to change 'Advanced', even real simple settings. They did it so badly that you had to basically be logged in as Admin to use the system, or spend all day logging in and out of User to Admin. Vista (Win 6) was a complete disaster, for many reasons. M$ promptly brought out Win 7 (win 6.1) basically a bug fix of Vista. All Win Systems are basically 3.1, with more eye candy. To think 95% of the World's Computer User's run Windows is incomprehensible. I use Linux Actually, they didn't, quite. The (default, i.e., home) setup still created the initial (and, possible subsequent... ) user as full admin. They just setup an additional layer whereby when that user logged in, they were "stripped" of administrative rights, and when a task requiring administrative privileges was attempted, the dreaded UAC popped up, and re-instated those rights. That's why a simple "Allow" or "Deny" is all that is required. In 7 (I don't know if this also worked in Vista, but I use it in 7 in a domain), the same thing exists, but if you're actually not an admin user, you have to provide the account name and password of a valid admin user (more Linux-like, and secure)... |
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