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Author Topic: YAPQ (Yet Another Partioning Question) for a reinstall of KDE  (Read 784 times)
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« on: July 08, 2011, 04:54:28 PM »

My Asus Eee Pc 701 with 8BG SSD (root) and 16GB SDHC (Home and swap) has gotten too full to update even after using bleachbit so I need to reinstall with the new ISO.
My question is how should I partition it?
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2011, 05:00:57 PM »

My Asus Eee Pc 701 with 8BG SSD (root) and 16GB SDHC (Home and swap) has gotten too full to update even after using bleachbit so I need to reinstall with the new ISO.
My question is how should I partition it?

Very carefully.  Grin


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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 05:22:28 PM »


With that little space, i think you are better off creating one giant partition and a small swap space.

open the terminal, log in as root and then copy and paste this command and give its output. You could have a lot of wasted space somewhere in your system. 8GB is a should be sufficient for a root partition

cd / ;  du -sch `ls -d * | sed -e "s/proc\///" -e "s/home\///"`
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 06:31:00 PM »

I don't know what happens but every time I tried to reply with the output as code I get a white screen.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 06:52:13 PM »

Code:
15M     bin/
48M     boot/
808K    dev/
79M     etc/
12K     include/
8.0K    initrd/
401M    lib/
16K     lost+found/
4.0K    media/
20K     mnt/
0       Module.symvers
0       null
780M    opt/
69M     root/
19M     sbin/
148K    share/
4.0K    swap/
0       sys/
564M    tmp/
5.4G    usr/
362M    var/
7.6G    total


The command produce the above here, areas to look for to see there is wasted space is in /root, /var and /tmp

You should be able to post your result if i can post mine. Put your result in within "code" tags like i just did for easy readability
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 06:54:20 PM »

My Asus Eee Pc 701 with 8BG SSD (root) and 16GB SDHC (Home and swap) has gotten too full to update even after using bleachbit so I need to reinstall with the new ISO.
My question is how should I partition it?

Very carefully.  Grin

And the survey says X  (guess that was the wrong answer)


ahahahahhahha!

i think that you have the right partition already

maybe the problem is kde itself, too big for that small hard disk, have you considered e17 or gnome?

also, change that small hard disk?  i know it is a old netbook but the speed gain as you see is counterproductive
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2011, 04:32:53 AM »

I tried with the "#" button on the forum and with the [ code ] nothing would post.
The problem with the SSD is that it is soldered on and so far I have not seen any 64GB SDHC cards that don't cost as much as a new netbook.
I am a KDE addict I am afraid I just really like the Ghost theme.
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2011, 04:50:15 AM »

du: cannot read directory `var/lib/named/proc/4413/task/4413/fdinfo': Permission denied
du: cannot read directory `var/lib/named/proc/4413/fd': Permission denied
du: cannot read directory `var/lib/named/proc/4413/fdinfo': Permission denied
du: cannot read directory `var/lib/named/proc/4414/task/4414/fd': Permission denied

536M    var/
270G    total

Edited: Cut down to reasonable size
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2011, 04:53:39 AM »

Sorry about all those post it was the only way that I could get the output up. I have no idea why the post as code thing will not work on my computer.
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2011, 04:55:38 AM »

I tried with the "#" button on the forum and with the [ code ] nothing would post.
The problem with the SSD is that it is soldered on and so far I have not seen any 64GB SDHC cards that don't cost as much as a new netbook.
I am a KDE addict I am afraid I just really like the Ghost theme.

I suspect that there is a great performance difference between the SSD and the SDHC, you can check using the command:
hdparm -t /dev/sdX. ... and then moving the root filesystem partition to SDHC may slow down the system ...

If you avoid the use of suspend/hybernate functions, I think you can do without the swap partition, 2 Gb RAM should be enough even when using several applications simultaneously.

I would make a separate /opt filesystem on the SDHC card, this way your system can fully work using the only the SSD, while some (big) applications (libreoffice, googleearth, acrobat reader, ...) will work from the SDHC.

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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2011, 10:00:59 AM »


is your output as short as mine or much, much longer? There is a limit to how much text a post can have.

you can post your output at "http://pastebin.com/" and give a link. Or you can just go ahead and reformat as want to do. This back and forth is wasting time and there could be nothing
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2011, 08:35:34 PM »

The output was huge here is the pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/0kf8Nfax
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2011, 08:48:01 PM »

[root@localhost /]# hdparm -t /dev/sda1

/dev/sda1:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  80 MB in  3.01 seconds =  26.55 MB/sec
[root@localhost /]# hdparm -t /dev/sdc5

/dev/sdc5:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  54 MB in  3.06 seconds =  17.67 MB/sec
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2011, 08:52:31 PM »

The output was huge here is the pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/0kf8Nfax


Hi deathromantik,

sorry if I step in again, but look like you have run the command from your user account, and not from root as required from muungwana. Also, the result can be much faster if you detach the external USB while running the command, because the external USB drive content is not relevant here.

Please try again, when at console prompt type:
su -
<provide the root password here>
then retry the command requested from muungwana:

cd / ;  du -sch `ls -d * | sed -e "s/proc\///" -e "s/home\///"`

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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2011, 08:52:58 PM »

just to add to what "as" has said above, when you are asked to "open the terminal and then log in as root", do the following

1. open the terminal
2. type "su" and then press "enter" and you will be asked for a password, enter root's password and then press enter to log in to root user account.

can you do the above and then run the command again. If you are unsure whose account you are logged into, run "whoami" command and it will tell you.
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