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« on: June 28, 2011, 08:32:36 PM »

I know that PCLOS greatly discourages the use of sudoers, but I noticed it has been left out of /etc. Is this a permanent removal or just an insignificant item for the present. Just curious
 
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 08:48:20 PM »

I know that PCLOS greatly discourages the use of sudoers, but I noticed it has been left out of /etc. Is this a permanent removal or just an insignificant item for the present. Just curious
 


Because of users posting instructions for the improper use of sudo it has been removed from the default installation.

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,90479.msg758079.html#msg758079

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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2011, 09:21:57 PM »

Last question on this topic from me, will there ever be a way to obtain it if one desires it for there system within our repo?
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2011, 09:30:01 PM »

Install sudo from Synaptic. I don't see visudo in there, though. I don't know what package provides it.

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2011, 09:53:03 PM »

visudo checks your syntax, etc.  If you are very careful, and know what the file has to look like, you can edit the sudoers file with any editor.  I'm
not sure what happens if you mess it up.  I would, of course, prefer visudo.  --doug
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2011, 11:01:41 PM »

I had always thought Linux was about choice, because of the abuse or stupidity of some, the "choice" has been taken away for all?
Well at least there are other "choices" people can make.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 11:25:06 PM »

sudo is evil

sudo in spanish means i sweat

don't use it and stop sweating  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2011, 11:27:10 PM »

sudo is evil

sudo in spanish means i sweat

don't use it and stop sweating  Grin

sudo is not "evil" it is simply the default in "toys".  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2011, 11:44:29 PM »

I had always thought Linux was about choice, because of the abuse or stupidity of some, the "choice" has been taken away for all?
Well at least there are other "choices" people can make.

It hasn't been taken away for anyone. It just isn't the default. sudo has its legitimate uses, and if you need it you can install it. Using it the buntu way is insane, but even that is possible. That too is your choice. You just have to choose the insanity yourself.

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2011, 11:51:59 PM »

You just have to choose the insanity yourself.

Well put. Can I go south with you?   Wink

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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2011, 01:22:18 AM »

I had always thought Linux was about choice, ...
... and you have the choice to install sudo from Synaptic. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2011, 01:33:09 AM »

I had always thought Linux was about choice, because of the abuse or stupidity of some, the "choice" has been taken away for all?
Well at least there are other "choices" people can make.

If that's meant as a form of veiled threat that you might choose to leave, over something this stupid... don't let it hit ya where the good lord split ya. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2011, 02:15:41 AM »

I had always thought Linux was about choice, because of the abuse or stupidity of some, the "choice" has been taken away for all?
Well at least there are other "choices" people can make.


Been taken away for all?  Not at all. If you want it install it with the package manager.



Please tell me what choice has been taken away? Just because it is not installed by default, DOES NOT mean you DO NOT have a choice to install and use it if you want.

larry1160 perhaps you should know what you are talking about before talking out your back side. Your statement doesn't make you look to smart, does it?  I really hope that you are wearing your flame retardant shorts as you are most likely going to need them.
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2011, 04:39:33 AM »

I had always thought Linux was about choice, because of the abuse or stupidity of some, the "choice" has been taken away for all?
Well at least there are other "choices" people can make.

I guess some people just like typing sudo on every line to do anything as root.  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2011, 06:33:12 AM »

IIRC ........  the sudo package has been moved to the 'special' section of the repository, so some effort is needed to find and install it.
It does not therefore show, by default, as available in Synaptic.
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