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« on: September 10, 2010, 06:16:12 PM » |
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I just did a manual partition setup, with swap 8gb and the rest /.
Will I regret this? I have a 500gb external hard drive which I back everything up on, so I'm thinking I'll be ok if my system crashes and I have to reinstall.
I like the simplicity, 3 partitions just seems to much.
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 06:23:02 PM » |
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You're free to create partitions as you like. There are good arguments for one partition and good arguments for multiple partitions.
I like the separate /home just in case of a re-install where I want to make sure there are no remnants of the previous OS.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 06:26:40 PM » |
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8GB of swap? how much RAM do you have? how do you plan to use your computer to expect usage of that much swap space?
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 06:28:12 PM » |
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I guess it kinda depends on how important your data is, I have a 320 gig external HD that I back up on also , but I also have a home partition on my 250 gig HD in this machine. Computer parts and OS's are notorious for failing at the worst possible time and I like to have some insurance. More than once over the past several years, I have had to re-install and was glad I had a couple of back up plans. Having the /home partition made it much easier.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 06:28:44 PM » |
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8GB of swap? how much RAM do you have? how do you plan to use your computer to expect usage of that much swap space?
Swap is just like anything, it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. What's 8GB of HD space these days? Cheers.
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Smitty Werben Jaeger Man Jensen
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2010, 06:38:39 PM » |
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8GB of swap? how much RAM do you have? how do you plan to use your computer to expect usage of that much swap space?
Swap is just like anything, it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. What's 8GB of HD space these days? Cheers. Exactly. + the installation help page says double your ram is a good swap space size.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2010, 06:39:48 PM » |
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I guess it kinda depends on how important your data is, I have a 320 gig external HD that I back up on also , but I also have a home partition on my 250 gig HD in this machine. Computer parts and OS's are notorious for failing at the worst possible time and I like to have some insurance. More than once over the past several years, I have had to re-install and was glad I had a couple of back up plans. Having the /home partition made it much easier.
ok, this helps me a lot because i don't really keep anything important on my computer.  reinstalling is a hassle but thats about it. everything is either on the net or in paper or what have you. thanks all
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2010, 06:44:17 PM » |
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O K , how about when you get everything set up the way you like it, make yourself a Live CD and you can just re-install from that, that way you don't have to set up your desktop and everything again.  hope this helps.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2010, 07:14:22 PM » |
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+1 for having a /home partition.
I just borked my system by installing a RPM on a whim. I knew the risks but thought I'd live on the wild side and did it anyway. With the /, /swap and /home arrangement formatting and reinstalling PCLOS is a snap with no risk to your data. The only way to fly IMO.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2010, 07:45:52 PM » |
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"Do I really need a /home partition?"
no, i never had it and never required it
/home partition is helpful under some circunstances but it also adds compexity to your installation
/home partition makes easier any reinstallation process if you store all your personal files in home but if not, if you use another partition /home won't help you and will be just a waste of space and a limitation for / space
"Exactly. + the installation help page says double your ram is a good swap space size."
that is only valid if you have less than 1 gb of ram or if you are in a laptop and you use suspend to disk, otherwise it is just a waste of hard disk space, i have 1 gb of ram and a swap of 3 gbs, system never uses more than 100 mbs of swap and rarely uses all ram
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2010, 07:57:30 PM » |
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Just to throw another scenario out there. I have a terabyte drive , separate root of 15 gig, /home of 45 gig, swap of 1 gig and the rest for data....and a small partition for windows which rarely gets used. I have 6 tabs open in Firefox, Ktorrent is running and busy, and I am using 700 mg ram out of 2gig and non of the swap. This setup has worked for me as it allows me to just reinstall PCLOS in /root if there was a problem and leaves home untouched.
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2010, 08:15:24 PM » |
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Even on my older boxes I have never seen swap used. Unless you are using memory intensive programs, cad, vid edit, etc, swap is probably not needed or just a token swap.
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2010, 08:23:07 PM » |
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I just did a manual partition setup, with swap 8gb and the rest /.
Will I regret this? I have a 500gb external hard drive which I back everything up on, so I'm thinking I'll be ok if my system crashes and I have to reinstall.
I like the simplicity, 3 partitions just seems to much.
It's a matter of perspective. [root@littleboy ~]# fdisk -lDisk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000565cd
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 45 361431 83 Linux /dev/sda2 46 257 1702890 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda3 258 12161 95618880 83 Linux /dev/sda4 12162 24321 97675200 5 Extended /dev/sda5 12162 24321 97675168+ 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdb: 164.7 GB, 164696555520 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 20023 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0xd7523ebd
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/sdb2 14 257 1959930 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdb3 258 1778 12217432+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb4 1779 20023 146552962+ 5 Extended /dev/sdb5 1779 7860 48853633+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb6 7861 14000 49319518+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb7 14001 20023 48379716 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 1 39 313236 83 Linux /dev/sdc2 40 1047 8096760 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdc3 1048 7127 48837600 83 Linux /dev/sdc4 7128 121601 919512405 5 Extended /dev/sdc5 7128 20500 107418591 83 Linux /dev/sdc6 20501 33267 102550896 83 Linux /dev/sdc7 33268 37158 31254426 83 Linux /dev/sdc8 37159 41049 31254426 83 Linux /dev/sdc9 41050 44940 31254426 83 Linux /dev/sdc10 44941 48831 31254426 83 Linux /dev/sdc11 48832 61886 104864256 83 Linux /dev/sdc12 61887 101050 314584798+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc13 101051 104942 31262458+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc14 104943 108893 31736376 83 Linux /dev/sdc15 108894 113071 33559753+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc16 113072 116988 31463271 83 Linux /dev/sdc17 116989 121601 37053891 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdd: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x2db1883a
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/sdd2 14 761 6008310 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdd3 762 4497 30009420 83 Linux /dev/sdd4 4498 91201 696449880 5 Extended /dev/sdd5 4498 16947 100004593+ 83 Linux /dev/sdd6 16948 41750 199230066 83 Linux /dev/sdd7 41751 45520 30282493+ 83 Linux /dev/sdd8 45521 50506 40050013+ 83 Linux /dev/sdd9 50507 65096 117194143+ 83 Linux /dev/sdd10 65097 79686 117194143+ 83 Linux /dev/sdd11 79687 91201 92494206 83 Linux
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2010, 08:37:35 PM » |
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I just did a manual partition setup, with swap 8gb and the rest /.
Will I regret this? I have a 500gb external hard drive which I back everything up on, so I'm thinking I'll be ok if my system crashes and I have to reinstall.
I like the simplicity, 3 partitions just seems to much.
It's a matter of perspective. [root@littleboy ~]# fdisk -lDisk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000565cd
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 45 361431 83 Linux /dev/sda2 46 257 1702890 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda3 258 12161 95618880 83 Linux /dev/sda4 12162 24321 97675200 5 Extended /dev/sda5 12162 24321 97675168+ 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdb: 164.7 GB, 164696555520 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 20023 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0xd7523ebd
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/sdb2 14 257 1959930 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdb3 258 1778 12217432+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb4 1779 20023 146552962+ 5 Extended /dev/sdb5 1779 7860 48853633+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb6 7861 14000 49319518+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb7 14001 20023 48379716 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 1 39 313236 83 Linux /dev/sdc2 40 1047 8096760 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdc3 1048 7127 48837600 83 Linux /dev/sdc4 7128 121601 919512405 5 Extended /dev/sdc5 7128 20500 107418591 83 Linux /dev/sdc6 20501 33267 102550896 83 Linux /dev/sdc7 33268 37158 31254426 83 Linux /dev/sdc8 37159 41049 31254426 83 Linux /dev/sdc9 41050 44940 31254426 83 Linux /dev/sdc10 44941 48831 31254426 83 Linux /dev/sdc11 48832 61886 104864256 83 Linux /dev/sdc12 61887 101050 314584798+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc13 101051 104942 31262458+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc14 104943 108893 31736376 83 Linux /dev/sdc15 108894 113071 33559753+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc16 113072 116988 31463271 83 Linux /dev/sdc17 116989 121601 37053891 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdd: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x2db1883a
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/sdd2 14 761 6008310 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdd3 762 4497 30009420 83 Linux /dev/sdd4 4498 91201 696449880 5 Extended /dev/sdd5 4498 16947 100004593+ 83 Linux /dev/sdd6 16948 41750 199230066 83 Linux /dev/sdd7 41751 45520 30282493+ 83 Linux /dev/sdd8 45521 50506 40050013+ 83 Linux /dev/sdd9 50507 65096 117194143+ 83 Linux /dev/sdd10 65097 79686 117194143+ 83 Linux /dev/sdd11 79687 91201 92494206 83 Linux
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2010, 08:51:29 PM » |
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Having a /home partition saved my lunch when I borked my install. The folks up here really saved me. I neede to upgrade to solve an issue.
After asking all my questions up here and making double sure I understood the entire procedure, I did the upgrade and the /home was untouched! All my data was intact. It was a simple matter of moving files and folders from an old user account to my new user account.
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