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« on: April 16, 2010, 12:50:44 PM »

I have a 3200 AMD Athlon 64 CPU. I have my temperature alarm in Bios set for 65° C. When I checked Bios for temperatures CPU was 62° C and System was 41° C. Since I have started using 2010 I have been getting a temperature warning beep though I'm doing nothing that previously triggered it. Before only watching videos triggered the alarm and then only rarely. I was wondering if any one else had noticed higher temperatures with 2010 or if it is just me?

PSU fan is working, CPU fan is working. Fan I have aimed at the video card is working. No dust build up. For years I have run with the covers off and they are still of.f Room temperature is below 80° F (27° C).

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2010, 02:23:45 PM »

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For years I have run with the covers off

I was always under the impression that it was wrong to have the covers off as the fans can't "direct" the full air-flow properly, and the system actually becomes warmer , but as always I'm open to correction  Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2010, 02:26:19 PM »

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For years I have run with the covers off

I was always under the impression that it was wrong to have the covers off as the fans can't "direct" the full air-flow properly, and the system actually becomes warmer , but as always I'm open to correction  Cheesy

You are correct. It's the only thing I remember from my A+ cert.  lol
Leave even the port covers in place.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2010, 02:29:03 PM »

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For years I have run with the covers off

I was always under the impression that it was wrong to have the covers off as the fans can't "direct" the full air-flow properly, and the system actually becomes warmer , but as always I'm open to correction  Cheesy

You are correct. It's the only thing I remember from my A+ cert.  lol
Leave even the port covers in place.

Thanks Rudge - thought I was right in saying that.
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2010, 02:30:02 PM »

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For years I have run with the covers off

I was always under the impression that it was wrong to have the covers off as the fans can't "direct" the full air-flow properly, and the system actually becomes warmer , but as always I'm open to correction  Cheesy
No, I have read that also of course I have also read the opposite. I mentioned it because of the conflicting opinions I have read. They're only off because I'm lazy but since they have been off for years and no problem most of the time I was a bit hesitant to put them back on.
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2010, 02:32:06 PM »

You are correct. It's the only thing I remember from my A+ cert.  lol
Leave even the port covers in place.

OK, now if I can just remember where they are. Thanks Guys.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2010, 02:35:05 PM »

You are correct. It's the only thing I remember from my A+ cert.  lol
Leave even the port covers in place.

OK, now if I can just remember where they are. Thanks Guys.

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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2010, 02:37:35 PM »

years?

time to clean it(internally), also check the values of the psu(some bios say if a voltage is too low), could be failing and creating excess of heat on some parts

does that case has a fan in the back, under the psu?

system covered and in a not proper place will get to 70° c easily, a proper place for most cases is top of the table, desktop you have your monitor, if you put a case too close to the wall, the heat will not be dissipated and system will reabsorb the hot air increasing temperature faster, a system with that cpu should run maximum at 50° c

also, what kernel are you using, video card you have and driver used?
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2010, 03:14:15 PM »

You are correct. It's the only thing I remember from my A+ cert.  lol
Leave even the port covers in place.

OK, now if I can just remember where they are. Thanks Guys.
Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

Maybe they've been "blown" away with all that fresh air flying around  Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2010, 03:22:22 PM »

It's those tiny screws I have trouble keeping up with.  Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2010, 03:24:35 PM »

It's those tiny screws I have trouble keeping up with.  Cheesy

Now your gonna really "screw" him up!!  Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2010, 04:20:10 PM »

No, no dust inside and covers will stay on without screws. Put them on to test ... well dang it beeped as I was typing. Couldn't be the PSU failing. It cost me almost $25 and is only five or six years old. Nividia (Gforce 7300) card. No fan on card but I installad a fan to blow over it because I noticed a temperature increase when I first installed it. CPU has a fan. Using the latest kernel and default Nvidia drivers. Got to wrap this up now. Computer beeping continuously now that the covers are on.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2010, 04:32:51 PM »

If it's a tower, laying on its side, stand it up. Same goes for a desktop. If it's one that can sit either way, lay it the opposite way.

I'm just throwing ideas at you now...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2010, 04:34:42 PM »

open konsole and write top or press ctrl+esc and see what uses most cpu

if the mainboard is old the cpu could require new thermal paste, did you assembled it by yourself?

what brand and how many watts is that psu?

if the system is old it is not impossible(it is a amd, never seen one failing but not impossible) that some fans are spinning slower, that it should, in bios, how fast the cpu fan reports to spin under 1000 rpm?
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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2010, 05:53:16 PM »

Just turned the computer back on. Currently I have the alarm in Bios set at 65° C and the shutdown temperature at 75° C. Am I being too conservative (no, I'm not over clocking)?

PSU is allegedly 600 watts. Name on it is Lead Power. Supposedly has two fans though I could never see the second fan. Bios reports CPU and PSU fans at 4000 RPM. Position of tower is upright with plenty of space. Putting the covers on raised the CPU 3°, enough to trip the alarm but the case temperature didn't go up. I got the cover back off. At least with the cover off I can use a desk fan to cool it.

Yes, home built and maybe the thermal paste is failing. I can't remember though if this CPU came pre-assembled. I have a couple of old CPU fans maybe I'll add one to the case but not sure where. The only two case fan positions are back and bottom. Back is in use and not sure how much airflow I'd get from the bottom unless I but something under the case feet to elevate it, Just sort of brain storming. Hmm... there are three unused card slots on the back maybe a fan there.

Thanks all for your suggestions.
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