[SOLVED] e17: a question, regarding ibar and pager settings

[vc]

Inspired by coffeetime's recent videos, I succeeded in setting up both an ibar and pager in a most satisfactory manner.  However; one small detail and attendant question yet remains:  how may I configure the settings for both of these objects so that they shall remain permanently visible above all other objects on the desktop, please?

[Agust]

As gadget , no.
As Shelf , yes.

Greetings:
Agust

[vc]

Ah... so; I must place those two gadgets inside a shelf, and then altogether they may behave as desired?

[Agust]

Yes 

Greetings:
Agust

[Linuxera]

Agust is such a smart cookie!!!

[vc]

I agree, linuxera - Agust is truly familiar with the Enlightenment environment, whereas I for one am wishing it had some clear and concise documentation... perhaps organised as a tree hierarchy in html format; a series of pages wherein, for instance, one could click on the 'Gadgets' section and see a complete list of every Gadget available, with each in turn having sub-links for Properties and Settings which pertain to the particular Gadget.

At any rate, I thank you again, Agust!  My appreciation and thanks most certainly go to the PCLinuxOS team as well, for PCLinuxOS is indeed the best combination of linux features and functions!  Where else could an unskilled person such as myself, for example, choose to use a window manager such as Enlightenment - and yet easily retain the functionality of KDE apps such as K3B and Konqueror, or Gnome apps such as Evince, with no re-coding or 'tweaking' required?  Both Enlightenment and PCLinuxOS are truly marvellous!