Audio cd not recognized

[BubbaBlues]

Since upgrading  to kde4 only one of my cd/dvd drives will play or burn.  When I insert a cd or dvd, the device notifier sees it but  the audio or video isn't seen and I have no option to play or burn. Both drives are on the same ribbon and both have the same config settings. The other drive works fine.  This only started after the kde4 upgrade.  What's up?

[BubbaBlues]

Well I guess it's just kde4.  'Bout ready to just dump this crap and get something that works.

[tom43]

                  Go into the Repo's and install: Gejengel..If it still doesn't work, what i did was overlay GNOME over KDE4, you will have much better luck with GNOME and stiil have KDE4 programs. It works great for me.

[BubbaBlues]

Thanks but I don't need an audio player, I need my media to be recognized by the system.  I don't know what you mean about installing gnome over kde4.
 Do you not have to have one or the other? I've used gnome a lot on another system and don't have any trouble installing any software I want. If it's a kde program
synaptic just downloads a truckload of dependencies with it and it works fine. But I really would like to work this out and stick with kde4 if possible.
 However, I have the patience of a rattlesnake when it comes to things not working properly.

[BubbaBlues]

Well the thread has been here 27 hours now and not one piece of technical advice.  I gave it a shot. 

[T6]

patience is a virtue, in no place here on this forum is said that you will have a answer in 5 minutes 

you haven't mentioned anything important like model of the unit, kernel in use, if the desktop is completely updated

also, how many cds have you tested?   

is it a mixed audio cd(with multimedia in it?)

about the ribbon, are you talking about ide cdrom drives?  have you checked the cables and if the jumpers are set correctly?

how old are these drives?

[BubbaBlues]

Ok there's a lot of difference between 5 minutes and 27 hours my friend. I believe I mentioned that it will not recognize a cd or a dvd for playing or burning. That would suggest that I've tried at least four. Obviously a ribbon would suggest ide drives and both units being on the same one  eliminates anything but an ide drive. I don't need to check the cables or jumpers because I built this computer three months ago and as I clearly stated, everything was working perfectly until I upgraded to kde4.  (fully updated) So do you actually have any suggestions as far as setting go, or do you just want to continue assuming that I'm an idiot?

p.s.  It's a Sony drive

[BubbaBlues]

I'm going to change the dvd drive and see if it's the drive itself. If that's the case it will be quite a coincidence that it quit working at the exact same time that I installed kde4, but anything is possible.  I'll post the results.

[Was_Just19]

p.s.  It's a Sony drive

That is useless to anyone willing to help.

Post the hardware specs of the PC ...... including the model numbers of BOTH optical drives.

Have you tried one drive at a time?
Have you tried each on a different connector of the cable?
Have you tried reseating the cable?
Have you tried changing the power lead to the non working unit?

What exactly have you done to find the fault?
What exact results did you get from what you tried?
List them so those reading know what has already been tried.

Eliminate the most likely hardware problems first then look to the software.

What are the contents of your   /etc/fstab   file?

Bitching about having to wait a day for a response you like is unlikely to encourage anyone to attempt to help you.

regards.

[BubbaBlues]

p.s.  It's a Sony drive

That is useless to anyone willing to help.

Post the hardware specs of the PC ...... including the model numbers of BOTH optical drives.

Have you tried one drive at a time?
Have you tried each on a different connector of the cable?
Have you tried reseating the cable?
Have you tried changing the power lead to the non working unit?

What exactly have you done to find the fault?
What exact results did you get from what you tried?
List them so those reading know what has already been tried.

Eliminate the most likely hardware problems first then look to the software.

What are the contents of your   /etc/fstab   file?

Bitching about having to wait a day for a response you like is unlikely to encourage anyone to attempt to help you.

regards.

He asked.
Yes I tried one at a time.
Ok here's what I've done.  I reformatted and re-installed pclos kde3.5  I tried both drives again and still the one set as master just showed every disk as
blank. Therefore I assumed it was the drive itself.  Wrong.  I swapped this drive with another drive in my other computer and it worked fine in the other one.
I The one I took out of the other computer, I worked fine in this computer.   You following me? Both drives are working perfectly after switching them.  So I did all
of the updates for pclos and then I upgraded to kde4 again and BAM The drive now sees the cd as an audio cd, gives me choices to play with KsCD or Amarok, but neither one of them will play it.  I can insert a cd into the slave drive and get the same choices and it plays fine. I put it back into the master drive and get the choices,
but it doesn't play.  
Kde4 is so complicated, something different screws up every time you install it.  

As for  /etc/fstab there is no such file or folder on my system.

[T6]

"Ok there's a lot of difference between 5 minutes and 27 hours my friend."

i am not your friend and i think that most users don't want to be your friends now(i hope i'm wrong)

"Obviously a ribbon would suggest ide drives and both units being on the same one  eliminates anything but an ide drive. "

no, it is not obvious because some people calls a sata cable a ribbon so it is not obvious, this is something basic, give all the information you can so other people can try to help you

"I don't need to check the cables or jumpers because I built this computer three months ago and as I clearly stated,"

i have build countless computers and ide cables can fail without any notice, the fail can be unpredictable and create impossible to diagnose problems

"So do you actually have any suggestions as far as setting go, or do you just want to continue assuming that I'm an idiot?"

i don't need to assume anything now, i'm sure

i was extremely polite when i made all those questions

"p.s.  It's a Sony drive"

model of drive(not just the name), mainboard model, kernel version in use

btw, sony drives have proven to me that they are not the best purchase one can do, if you can, change them for another popular model recommended here

talking about information in general, here you can find some very important information

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,2401.0.html

[BubbaBlues]

The drive that isn't working was set as master and the slave drive was working. I switched the jumpers around and now it works but the other one doesn't.  So
for some reason, whatever drive is set as slave works and the one set as master doesn't work.  
 
T6, if you want to call an sata cable a ribbon that's fine, but there's no way you're going to connect two devices on the same one.  I apologize for calling you
my friend. Didn't mean to upset you.

I have two HP dvd drives, one Liteon drive and one Sony drive. I've had pretty good luck with all of them. In this case. I've established that it doesn't matter which brand or model it is.  It just doesn't like the one set as master.  Any suggestions? 

p.s.  I'm really a nice guy once you get to know me.   

[Was_Just19]

As for  /etc/fstab there is no such file or folder on my system.

Yes there is.

[T6]

"The drive that isn't working was set as master and the slave drive was working. I switched the jumpers around and now it works but the other one doesn't."

a very common problem with ide and dvd burners, check jumpers to master/slave, or just remove both jumpers, if you are lucky and have two ide connectors, put each drive as master, if not, the weirdest and nonsense recommendation, put master as slave and slave as master and boot system to see results

i had a sony dvd drive and a lg cd-rw drive, i never could make those two work nice and the lg always had to be master, nothing more worked, fortunately sony died prematurely(blind laser) and lg died after 7 years of use(can't burn without making restart any pc i use and destroying the cd in use), now i'm happy with a external usb drive, no more ide hardware for me

"So for some reason, whatever drive is set as slave works and the one set as master doesn't work."

still can be a die cable that doesn't work properly

"T6, if you want to call an sata cable a ribbon that's fine"

this happened monday last week, i showed a pc to another person and the name showed from nowhere

"but there's no way you're going to connect two devices on the same one."

some users can get confused about sata raid colored connectors

about sata, why did you installed ide drives in a new pc?  sata is the way(for now), ide is too delicate to use

[BubbaBlues]

about sata, why did you installed ide drives in a new pc?  sata is the way(for now), ide is too delicate to use
When I said I built it, i kinda meant rebuilt it. It was a new Compaq last year. I upgraded the cpu and added a nvidea 9 series card, etc.  Anyway,the mother board has 2 sata ports and one ide port. I have a 250 gig sata hdd in it so I used the ide port for my cd/dvd drives. I've used it this way with three different operating systems and have never had a problem until kde4.

" the weirdest and nonsense recommendation, put master as slave and slave as master and boot system to see results"
I  switched them back and forth but it's still the master that doesn't want to work.

Johnboy,  I used the find files/folders utility and searched for /etc/fstab under /  and came up with nothing.   That's all I know to do so if it's here and you know it's here
why don't you enlighten me on where it is?