Desktop Poll

[omnio]

At the moment I use KDE3, but when the switch to KDE4 will be official I'll start using the XFCE flavor of pclos because I don't need that bloat/hog called KDE4. But don't get me wrong, I understand that things change, please carry on and many thanks.

[omnio]

At the moment I use KDE3, but when the switch to KDE4 will be official I'll start using the XFCE flavor of pclos because I don't need that bloat/hog called KDE4. But don't get me wrong, I understand that things change, please carry on and many thanks.

At a second thought... I'll switch to Gnome, I gave it a try these days and the performance seems to be somewhere around that of KDE3, and the functionality way better than in the case of XFCE, of course. I'm still having some problems in Gnome, bluetooth doesn't work (while in KDE3 it works), when I try to adjust the audio settings I only get a "Waiting for sound system to respond" message, and I don't seem to have a clipboard manager here... but I hope that in time I'll figure out how to solve these problems. Anyway, I'm not going to buy another PC just to run KDE4 on it 

[Crow]

that seems to be a temporal solution only omnio apparently Gnome will have the same "growing pains"

[T6]

apparently?

gnome is on version 2 for...  always!

version 3 will be very similar to kde4

time to evolve your desktop, add new ideas, work always changes, we can't use the same desktop windows nt 4.0 had 16 years ago

[Crow]

T6 

I'm glad to see you're not who ignored me        

Now I'm gonna have to pick other to talk bad     

Back on topic, KDE 4 is been a bad ride for me so I went to sidelines until is more stable (probably the new PCLinuxOS release) and I'm using E17. 

On a second thought, even if I return to KDE I will keep E17 as an alternate DE, I really like it now.

[T6]

e17? good decision 

for me, kde4 has reached the boring stated kde3 had in 2007!

very fast if you ask me!

all it has to offer me i use it, maybe it offers too much or i ask too much? 

anyway, kde4 is at least 2 times more stable on this machine than kde3 was so i won't search for another option until the new gnome comes to our repos, for now, e17 is a toy for me, very nice toy 

[omnio]

that seems to be a temporal solution only omnio apparently Gnome will have the same "growing pains"

When that time will come I'll switch to XFCE 

[Bren]

Might want to re-post the poll. I know I've changed over to KDE4 since this poll was taken.

[joseppi]

I'm very frustrated with "new" things (and updates) breaking things that used to work.

[T6]

what updates?

haven't had a single update in a month!

[uncle.zz]

At the moment I use KDE3, but when the switch to KDE4 will be official I'll start using the XFCE flavor of pclos because I don't need that bloat/hog called KDE4. But don't get me wrong, I understand that things change, please carry on and many thanks.

At a second thought... I'll switch to Gnome, I gave it a try these days and the performance seems to be somewhere around that of KDE3, and the functionality way better than in the case of XFCE, of course. I'm still having some problems in Gnome, bluetooth doesn't work (while in KDE3 it works), when I try to adjust the audio settings I only get a "Waiting for sound system to respond" message, and I don't seem to have a clipboard manager here... but I hope that in time I'll figure out how to solve these problems. Anyway, I'm not going to buy another PC just to run KDE4 on it 

omnio

I'm concerning your "second thought"...
I use PCLOS GNOME as my primary DE since 2009.2 was released and I like it very much. It is hard to find any disadvantages of using it... It's fast, stable and nice.
Though nothing is PERFECT
About the problems you mentioned:
1. I can't say much about bluetooth because I don't use it, but still, I think the problem you mentioned is hardware/driver/kernel related and not the software itself, though you say bluetooth worked in KDE3... did you use the same kernel then?
2. About the Audio settings problem, yes right! I also confirm the "Waiting for sound system to respond" ERROR. Though that Error appeared after the very last update of the release 2009. I also didn't like that fact but as far as the NEW 2010 release is approaching I didn't pay much attention on it. One solution: if you try to reinstall the Gnome, soon after installing, adjust the audio settings and then update. Second (better!)solution: Open terminal, type alsamixer and there you can adjust the audio settings. Third solution: wait for the final release of PCLOS2010
3. And "clipboard manager", here actually I don't understand what is the problem?! Parcellite is installed by default and even more it loads in system startup also by default.

Overall, Gnome on PCLOS is the best one I've ever seen on any other distribution.

Regards,

Uncle.ZZ

[omnio]

omnio

I'm concerning your "second thought"...
I use PCLOS GNOME as my primary DE since 2009.2 was released and I like it very much. It is hard to find any disadvantages of using it... It's fast, stable and nice.
Though nothing is PERFECT
About the problems you mentioned:
1. I can't say much about bluetooth because I don't use it, but still, I think the problem you mentioned is hardware/driver/kernel related and not the software itself, though you say bluetooth worked in KDE3... did you use the same kernel then?
2. About the Audio settings problem, yes right! I also confirm the "Waiting for sound system to respond" ERROR. Though that Error appeared after the very last update of the release 2009. I also didn't like that fact but as far as the NEW 2010 release is approaching I didn't pay much attention on it. One solution: if you try to reinstall the Gnome, soon after installing, adjust the audio settings and then update. Second (better!)solution: Open terminal, type alsamixer and there you can adjust the audio settings. Third solution: wait for the final release of PCLOS2010
3. And "clipboard manager", here actually I don't understand what is the problem?! Parcellite is installed by default and even more it loads in system startup also by default.

Overall, Gnome on PCLOS is the best one I've ever seen on any other distribution.

Regards,

Uncle.ZZ

Hi Uncle.ZZ, thank you for your time, it's kind of you.

1. I have a regular pclos KDE install and I got gnome through "task-gnome", so I can test things both on KDE and Gnome (the same machine, the same install, just that I have both KDE and Gnome installed). Yes, under Gnome I can receive files from my phone via bluetooth but I can't send them, "Setup new device" no workie. Anyway, I should have a closer look, maybe I don't know how to use it yet.
2. Yes, strange, no idea.
3. Thanks for the hint. Here task-gnome didn't bring in any clipboard manager. This is smth I would expect from task-gnome-minimal and not task-gnome, but anyway, I installed Parcellite afterwards and it works well, thanks.

[uncle.zz]

omnio

You are welcome

BTW, you can also adjust the audio settings by installing gnome-alsamixer OR alsamixergui.

Regards,

Uncle.ZZ

[vc]

T6 

I'm glad to see you're not who ignored me        

Well, that is rather strange... apparently I was 'ignoring' you somehow, yet I can't understand why - I have no desire to 'ignore' anyone.  How on earth did that happen?

Hmm.  Perhaps I should change my account password.  Immediately.

[Crow]

T6 

I'm glad to see you're not who ignored me        

Well, that is rather strange... apparently I was 'ignoring' you somehow, yet I can't understand why - I have no desire to 'ignore' anyone.  How on earth did that happen?

Hmm.  Perhaps I should change my account password.  Immediately.

NNNooooooo!!!      Now I'm part of the huge mass who is not ignored, I'm not special anymore I will have to change my nick for something tasty