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« on: November 23, 2009, 09:47:40 PM »

Here is what I did to make a PCLiunuxOS KDE 4 Minime remastered copy.

Installed fully updated PCLinuxOS Minime 2009.1 .

Replaced kde4 in place of kde in repos.

After reload I installed " task-kde4-minimal "

This brought me to a nicely running KDE4 Minimal desktop.

As root I deleted .kde older folder from home.

I am setting/fixing looks of this minime.

Since "linuxera" maintains Minime version I would appreciate if she and other friends suggest anything more to customize this remaster I am trying to make for myself and my friends who are always getting copies of PCLinuxOS and this time I want to offer them something new and different to KDE3 minime.

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2009, 06:32:41 PM »

cryingtux,

Although Linuxera maintains/managed to get the MiniMe 2009.1 released,she does have other responsibilities within both her volenteer time for PCLinuxOS and in 'real life' too, which makes it difficult for any 'personalised' assistance to be realistic.

Where you take MiniMe after install is your choice - thats what the original MiniMe was all about back with 0.93a.

What do you want your MiniMe to do/go?, you have a good KDE4 base to work from, and the choice is all yours what you make of it.

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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2009, 06:36:28 PM »

Hopefully the Minime didn't expand too far when you did that.  Now hope on over to MyPClinuxOS and learn how to do a perfect remaster and you have it made..

Have fun!!
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 06:51:32 PM »

cryingtux,

Although Linuxera maintains/managed to get the MiniMe 2009.1 released,she does have other responsibilities within both her volenteer time for PCLinuxOS and in 'real life' too, which makes it difficult for any 'personalised' assistance to be realistic.

Where you take MiniMe after install is your choice - thats what the original MiniMe was all about back with 0.93a.

What do you want your MiniMe to do/go?, you have a good KDE4 base to work from, and the choice is all yours what you make of it.

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Jase

Quite well said. Minime does require a bit of thought. You really have to know what you want from your OS to make it sing. I installed Minime a while back (pre KDE4) on an old Athlon XP 1700+ socket A motherboard. It truly was a learning experience! I tried very hard to bring the system and myself to the edge. If anyone has an old system to practice on...I highly recommend it.

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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009, 03:09:15 AM »

cryingtux, I am hooked on the MiniMe install. I recently made the switch to KDE4 from a fresh MiniMe install & tried to remaster for a KDE4 Mini (like you got). However I couldn't get it to remaster successfully & didn't have the patience to make it work, so I went ahead & set it up the way I liked. However I really wanted to see the size of a KDE4 MiniMe image.
Did it fit on a CD? Hoping the official release MiniME-2010 is KDE4  Grin Grin
btw, I have many successful remasterme experiences but many failures too, so a successful remaster is a thrill!  Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2009, 08:56:03 AM »

Hopefully the Minime didn't expand too far when you did that



Thanks for your comment and guidance linuxera

The size of this minime is what worries me most. despite that I just installed the minimal kde4 and base system only with nothing more added the iso size grew over to around 630 mb, I dont know how to shrink it more? perhaps enabled lzma in remasterme which I disabled because that makes the making of the new iso painfully slow.

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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2009, 09:05:09 AM »

Hopefully the Minime didn't expand too far when you did that



Thanks for your comment and guidance linuxera

The size of this minime is what worries me most. despite that I just installed the minimal kde4 and base system only with nothing more added the iso size grew over to around 630 mb, I dont know how to shrink it more? perhaps enabled lzma in remasterme which I disabled because that makes the making of the new iso painfully slow.

regards,

Neal did one a couple of weeks ago and I believe it came in about 454 mb.

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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2009, 09:10:55 AM »

  " If anyone has an old system to practice on...I highly recommend it. "

Minime is what I always love to have handy not just for older systems but for installation of any system .It is fast to install and build a system upon it according to your needs. If there was an option in PCLinuxOS , I would have loved to have a "netinstall" iso.

My purpose of making a KDE4 minime is to have a fully functional and updated base system so I can install pclinuxos kde4 anywhere i want and distribute its copies too. Many of my friends have switched over to PCLInuxOS and many of computers in our hospital now run PCLinuxOS.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2009, 09:16:14 AM »

Hopefully the Minime didn't expand too far when you did that



Thanks for your comment and guidance linuxera

The size of this minime is what worries me most. despite that I just installed the minimal kde4 and base system only with nothing more added the iso size grew over to around 630 mb, I dont know how to shrink it more? perhaps enabled lzma in remasterme which I disabled because that makes the making of the new iso painfully slow.

regards,

Neal did one a couple of weeks ago and I believe it came in about 454 mb.



Neal gave me some tips about graphics, lets wait for his how to about his minime, Neal please would you post those here?
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2009, 11:43:59 AM »

The first steps in creating a remaster is outlined in this thread at MyPCLinuxOS. Texstar's instructions are concise and will take you through creating your remaster, if you are willing to take the time to do the /etc/skel edits and then go to the next level and look for other files that may need to be edited. More may be learned by perusing the LXDE Remaster threads and the threads in the Quarterly Update CD section.

There is more to creating a remaster than simply adding / removing a few apps. It takes time and commitment to search out and edit the files where changes are needed. For example, if you've created or just added a new default log in theme, you need to edit the /etc/rc.sysinit file to be sure you remove the graphic with the liveCD login info on it, as well as adding the graphics to /usr/share/apps/kdm or /usr/share/gdm. You'll also want to check in /root and /home/guest for anything that you may need to edit. Remember to enable "show hidden files" under edit in your file manager. Do not get in a hurry! Accuracy is more important than speed.

If you need to know more about the filesystem, LinuxCommand has an good guided tour for the basics. For more in depth information, a web-search is a good idea, I use Google's Linux search. In this effort to learn you should bear in mind that you may find information that doesn't fit with the PCLinuxOS layout of the filesystem. For this reason, you should review where things are in our system. For example, some distros use /usr/local as the place for app installation, while the default in PCLinuxOS is /usr.

Do complete updates before you start, and as you go along. Working with a completely up-to-date system will benefit your remaster. After you've started, if a new update comes along that may make changes to something that you've already edited, you will need to return to that file or files and review it again. A new edit may be needed.

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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2009, 02:10:35 PM »

Thanks Neal, these are really very important details, I will take a print out of these and try to follow these as statum verbatim.
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2009, 07:33:32 PM »

The size of this minime is what worries me most. despite that I just installed the minimal kde4 and base system only with nothing more added the iso size grew over to around 630 mb, I dont know how to shrink it more?

I suppose there's always slimming down the kernel, if KDE4 wont go any smaller.
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2009, 05:24:20 AM »

I suppose there's always slimming down the kernel, if KDE4 wont go any smaller.

Stephen!,
The size of the kernel is not the problem. A clean up of unnecessary files will reduce the size by quite a bit. I'd suggest a read through of Texstar's tutorial at MyPCLinuxOS and the other threads linked to above as a starting point. Research plus the willingness to spend time in the file system (with care!) is the best start to finding a way to reduce the size of the ISO.
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