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AndrzejL
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« on: February 07, 2012, 03:16:18 PM »

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Abandoned by British justice: Student faces 10 years in U.S. jail for setting up 'illegal' website (in a chilling echo of Gary McKinnon)

A British student faces up to a decade in a U.S. prison for actions which are not even a crime in the UK.

Campaigners say Richard O’Dwyer, 23, is being abandoned by his country in the same way as computer hacker Gary McKinnon.

Mr O’Dwyer is accused of listing places where films and TV programmes could be illegally downloaded, on a website he ran from his university bedroom in Sheffield.

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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 04:50:06 PM »

This is definitely crazy. Justice is meant to protect people in the first place, not to help the content industry to protect their profits.

This popped up in my mind today:

"Most of the illegally downloaded content would have never been sold legally. If people download content illegally they will spend their money elsewhere, which will help the economy more than buying digital content. That should help the governments earn money as they will receive VAT for the goods purchased instead of the digital content."

Just some thoughts, not even my definite opinion.  Cool

You know what? The content industry can kma..  Roll Eyes I don't watch movies, nor do I hear any music other than on radio or what I bought on a CD.

Have to agree with Bill Gates on his statement on DRM some years ago: "Buy a CD and rip it." You own it if you can touch it  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 05:25:55 PM »

Why would a country like the UK allow one of it's citizens to be removed from his home country (the UK) to another country (USA) if that citizen broke no law?  I'm sure am confused by that action alone.
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 05:51:09 PM »

So am I, and live in the UK, as a Charles Dickens, caricature remarked " The Law is an Ass ".
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 06:21:02 PM »

So am I, and live in the UK, as a Charles Dickens, caricature remarked " The Law is an Ass ".
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 06:27:30 PM »

Guys... Words "example" and "scapegoat" ring a bell?
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 06:35:13 PM »

Guys... Words "example" and "scapegoat" ring a bell?

Expendable ... come to my mind ...
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 08:06:32 PM »

Guys... Words "example" and "scapegoat" ring a bell?

Expendable ... come to my mind ...

exactly!
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 08:11:44 PM »

Plain shameful. No country should ever abandon their citizens. Correct them if they go wrong but never abandon them. Citizens IS the country after all. Self destruction at work.
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 08:16:49 PM »

Plain shameful. No country should ever abandon their citizens. Correct them if they go wrong but never abandon them. Citizens IS the country after all. Self destruction at work.

Many of us in the UK see ourselves as the 51st State of the USA according to the way we are treated here.
The US of A rules seem to take priority over those of our country....
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 08:36:54 PM »

Plain shameful. No country should ever abandon their citizens. Correct them if they go wrong but never abandon them. Citizens IS the country after all. Self destruction at work.

Many of us in the UK see ourselves as the 51st State of the USA according to the way we are treated here.
The US of A rules seem to take priority over those of our country....

Revenge of the colonies? 
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 10:35:18 PM »

"Revenge of the colonies?  "
 i would vote a +1 for this one... "Guys... Words "example" and "scapegoat" ring a bell?"

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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 12:09:45 AM »

Plain shameful. No country should ever abandon their citizens. Correct them if they go wrong but never abandon them. Citizens IS the country after all. Self destruction at work.

Many of us in the UK see ourselves as the 51st State of the USA according to the way we are treated here.
The US of A rules seem to take priority over those of our country....

Revenge of the colonies? 

Nope, it's capitalism run out of hands aka control.

Nuff said.
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2012, 01:00:05 AM »

How can I put it?

John Bull and  Uncle Sam are inseparable, the best of chums. This is simply the next logical and natural step in their relationship. 
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2012, 05:47:00 AM »

You will not believe this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2097943/Abu-Qatada-released-Will-hate-preacher-Hamza-set-free-next.html?ITO=google_news_rss_feed

Abu Hamza and five other dangerous terror suspects could follow Abu Qatada in being freed to walk Britain’s streets.

Unelected Euro judges are preparing to rule if the six – who are accused of running terror camps and extremist websites or plotting atrocities – can be extradited to the U.S.

And, in the wake of Europe’s ruling that fanatic Qatada cannot be kicked out of Britain, Whitehall officials are braced for defeat.
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