Solved: Firefox then updating

[btrussell]

Just had something weird happen with FF.

First, I am reading article, all of a sudden, I am logged out of desktop.

Sign in, 18 FF windows open, along with the one I had open with all its' tabs intact.

Close all excess FF windows, continue reading.

Then things start working like I have gestures activated for mouse.

Click on menu, it disappears immediately. R-click anywhere, same thing, menu disappears immediately. Hardly know they opened.

Then mouse starts acting like I am clicking whatever it is over. eg. open file menu, move mouse down, new tab opens.

Shut down FF a couple of times, still not right so I shut down PC, reboot, go to update, synaptic wants me to update wine and a couple of its' cousins.
I DO NOT HAVE WINE INSTALLED

I am using PCLinuxOS KDE updated fully within last week. No outside packages installed. Not sure of exact kernel, but it is one of the ones that recognize more than 4GB RAM.

This PC is just a few months old, so it is a fresh install dual booting with windows 7.


Why does synaptic want me to install wine and its' relatives?

I've taken a screenshot, but I don't see any upload options.

Edit: Now, when opening FF, it always opens three windows. My original window with all the open tabs is gone.

Edit 2: when opening FF from konsole, three windows open.

Edit 3: 2.6.38.8-pclos3.pae.bfs

[kjpetrie]

This sounds odd. Your system has clearly become unstable for some reason (a power glitch?).

I would boot from a livecd and run fsck -f on your unmounted pclos partitions as a first option.

[btrussell]

This sounds odd. Your system has clearly become unstable for some reason (a power glitch?).

I would boot from a livecd and run fsck -f on your unmounted pclos partitions as a first option.

Firefox is the only problem.

System is fine. Other than synaptic wanting to update wine which isn't installed.

I'll boot up LiveCD.

[JohnW_57]

I've taken a screenshot, but I don't see any upload options.

Drag and drop the image from tinypic, picasa ect... where you can upload images.
(2nd icon(2nd row) insert image)).
See @ http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,68872.0.html

Shut down FF a couple of times, still not right so I shut down PC, reboot, go to update, synaptic wants me to update wine and a couple of its' cousins.
I DO NOT HAVE WINE INSTALLED

Synaptic have nothing to do with Firefox or other browsers, PCLOS have no installer via a browser (apturl is not in use or is removed).

Edit 2: when opening FF from konsole, three windows open.

FF start only with the homepage I did set in the FF config  (only after a update I get 1 extra tab that FF is updated).
Multiple tabs you can get  when you didn't close FF with closing a desktop session or after FF is/was crashed

Only you can decide what's installed and update/add/remove in synaptic

Using PCLOS  more then 7 years now and never seen this behavior.

JohnW

[AS]

Edit 2: when opening FF from konsole, three windows open.

FF start only with the homepage I did set in the FF config  (only after a update I get 1 extra tab that FF is updated).
Multiple tabs you can get  when you didn't close FF with closing a desktop session or after FF is/was crashed

... not only ... FF can be set up to reopen all tabs that where open the last time it was closed:
Preferences -> Settings -> General -> When FF starts: "Show my window and tabs from last time"

[aguila]

just an idea:

disable all your addons and see if you can reproduce the problem. If you can't, enable them one by one.

Also make sure you don't have your desktop settings set to restart with the same windows you had before shutting down.

[btrussell]

[btrussell]

This sounds odd. Your system has clearly become unstable for some reason (a power glitch?).

I would boot from a livecd and run fsck -f on your unmounted pclos partitions as a first option.

First I used LiveCD copied to RAM. All I got was "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.18"

Then I accidentally did it from my installed OS and got warnings that I will ruin filesystem if I continue as it was mounted. I quit.

Then I did it from LiveCD booted up and got same message as when I had it copied to RAM.

I will need more explicit instructions.

root sda5 ext4 12GB
swap sda6         3.8GB
home sda7 ext4 430GB

Thanks!

[btrussell]

I've taken a screenshot, but I don't see any upload options.

Drag and drop the image from tinypic, picasa ect... where you can upload images.
(2nd icon(2nd row) insert image)).
See @ http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,68872.0.html

Shut down FF a couple of times, still not right so I shut down PC, reboot, go to update, synaptic wants me to update wine and a couple of its' cousins.
I DO NOT HAVE WINE INSTALLED

Synaptic have nothing to do with Firefox or other browsers, PCLOS have no installer via a browser (apturl is not in use or is removed).

Edit 2: when opening FF from konsole, three windows open.

FF start only with the homepage I did set in the FF config  (only after a update I get 1 extra tab that FF is updated).
Multiple tabs you can get  when you didn't close FF with closing a desktop session or after FF is/was crashed

Only you can decide what's installed and update/add/remove in synaptic

Using PCLOS  more then 7 years now and never seen this behavior.

JohnW

Finally got the Image uploaded. Thanks!

I never said I was installing via Firefox. I started synaptic right after booting again before starting FF. But it is how I update Firefox. How do you update firefox if synaptic has nothing to do with browsers? I only install from repos.

I almost always have FF start with multiple tabs open. It is a feature, not because of a crash.

"Only you can decide what's installed and update/add/remove in synaptic"
Not when I click reload, mark all updates. Synaptic does it automatically. In this case, it wants to UPGRADE wine, which I don't have installed.

I have been using it for seven years myself and I have not seen this behavior ever before either. But one of the people I have converted has reported this to me. I told him it was because he, his wife, or his son were messing around with settings. No one but me uses this PC and I don't mess around with many settings.
I am blaming FF, not OS, all other programs I tried worked as expected.


Firefox was opening three windows, not tabs, and all were set to homepage, which is PCLinuxOS.

After closing two windows, then closing FF, it would do it again. Open three WINDOWS/instances  of firefox, not three tabs.

Then I tried going to a different page, closed FF, and it has been working as it should since. Including when I shut down from homepage.

I am going to see what happens in synaptic now to see if it still wants to upgrade wine.

[btrussell]

Edit 2: when opening FF from konsole, three windows open.

FF start only with the homepage I did set in the FF config  (only after a update I get 1 extra tab that FF is updated).
Multiple tabs you can get  when you didn't close FF with closing a desktop session or after FF is/was crashed

... not only ... FF can be set up to reopen all tabs that where open the last time it was closed:
Preferences -> Settings -> General -> When FF starts: "Show my window and tabs from last time"

Thank-you!

I am not here to argue what FF does or doesn't do.
I can have this OS re-installed in 5 minutes. But that doesn't tell me what is wrong with FF.

In my opinion, this is a result of FF getting poisoned somehow. Something poisonous wants or needs wine installed to work properly.

[btrussell]

just an idea:

disable all your addons and see if you can reproduce the problem. If you can't, enable them one by one.

Also make sure you don't have your desktop settings set to restart with the same windows you had before shutting down.

I have four add-ons in total:
No-script
betterprivacy
adblockplus
piratebaydancing

Only the first three were enabled. FF has since started working properly without me doing anything other than fsck -f from LiveCD.
I disabled no-script and adblockplus this morning to upload pic.

I close all windows before shutting down. Always. So I don't know where that setting is and is moot anyway as it was FF I was shutting down, not PC. PC and all other programs I tried were working properly. When I rebooted, no windows were open. When I start FF, three windows opened. My desktop is set to double-click mouse to open. I checked that last night as well. Single click only selected, did not open.
Thunderbird, Opera, Iron,vlc, Calc, writer, ksnapshot(I think), dolphin, they all worked properly when FF was screwing up last night.

Thank-you for the suggestion, but FF started working properly on its' own with those three add-ons enabled.

[aguila]

brrussell,

that's Picasa which needs wine as it's not a native Linux application.
 Has been discussed somewhere here before.

[btrussell]

Synaptic still wants to upgrade libwine1, wine, wine-gecko and wine tricks.

I do not have nor want wine installed.

[btrussell]

brrussell,

that's Picasa which needs wine as it's not a native Linux application.
 Has been discussed somewhere here before.

Thanks!
I have been using picasa for some time without wine.

Is this a new requirement? I don't need picasa and will uninstall it.

I'd rather not install wine. If I need M$ program without rebooting, I'd rather use virtual box.

Picasa just fired up no problem. First time I have started it in some time.

[pinoc]

btrussel,

the latest picasa update requires all the wine-things, so if you had picasa installed then they will get added automatically, see here for more info on this. If you do not use picasa then uninstall it, so the updates including wine are not triggered anymore.

-p