rhythmbox hangs machine

[dougmack]

I installed ryhthmbox and rhythmbox-radio-browser from Synaptic and went to open the program from the menu.  It basically
hangs the computer.  The mouse-pointer can be made to move once every 15 seconds or so, for just a short distance,
whether within the Rhythmbox window or outside of it. Thus there is no way to shut it down gracefully--I had to ctrl-alt-bs
to exit the system.  I am using all the latest system upgrades, just installed today. If this is a reportable problem, how do I
report it? Or is this some kind of a glitch only in my system?  (I can live without this, but I thought it wise to report the
situation and see what the gurus have to say.)

--doug

[rubentje1991]

Which desktop environment do you use?

[dougmack]

I'm running the KDE desktop on a Dell Inspiron 6400/E1505 laptop, Intel T1350 processor at 1.86GHz, 2GB ram, display on the laptop.

--doug

[johnmart]

hi doug,

I don't use rhythmbox, but when I checked it out on synaptic it pulls in a lot of dependencies;

(partial list)
Did you apply them all?

[dougmack]

When you said "apply them all"--I don't understand.  I just assumed that if Synaptic wanted them it would install them.  I'm
sure if I got a listing, as you showed, I would have said Mark.  (I have installed a lot of things from Synaptic.)  Anyway--
I didn't remember uninstalling the programs, but I guess I did. (Just checked the list in Synaptic.)  I'm willing to try again, if it seems worthwhile, and so long as it's not likely to wreck my system or erase any files.  What's the consensus?

--doug

[johnmart]

Those are files required for rhythm box to run. They won't cause any harm to your system. So if synaptic lists shows you some files needed to run your app, install them, report back. 

[dougmack]

I have installed _only_ rhythmbox, not rythmbox-radio-browser.  synaptic said there 35 files required and I snapped on Mark.
The box came up and said Extra output [something something]--"While installing package python-coherence-0.6.6.2-3pclos2010:
Warning: network-up is needed by coherence in runlevel 4."

In synaptic, I found python coherence, which was installed, and python coherence app, which was not, but I installed it.

I searched for and found network-up in /etc/rd.d/init.d.  Dolphin says it's a bash script.  From root it will not run.
[doug@localhost init.d]$ sudo network-up
Password:
sudo: network-up: command not found

I read part of the script, it says it requires network, which is another file in the same directory with an *, and it won't run either.
(command not found.)
 
doing ls -la on the directory shows a file network-up* in green:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5471 Jul 10  2011 network-up*

I don't know what the * means.  And I don't know what do do next.  Over to you. . . .

--doug

[djohnston]

The box came up and said Extra output [something something]--"While installing package python-coherence-0.6.6.2-3pclos2010:
Warning: network-up is needed by coherence in runlevel 4."

That message is normal. It simply means that the package python-coherence needs network access in runlevel 4 to function correctly. There is no need to worry about that message. What you do need to worry about is marking all dependencies for installation every time you install something.

For whatever reason(s), you continually run into problems because you do partial upgrades or do not mark all dependencies for installation.

[dougmack]

I am afraid I do not understand you.  Everything in the window that asked me to mark should have been marked when I checked "Mark."
Is that not so? When I said "Apply" it told me it was installing 35 files.  What more can I do that I haven't done?  As far as "partial upgrades"  I have, before starting this a few days ago, done a reload and "mark all upgrades" and apply.  I did it again today before checking off rhythmbox and applying. My kernel is
[doug@localhost ~]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.38.8-pclos3.bfs #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 8 18:01:30 CDT 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
and my KDE is 4.6.5.  I believe the distro is 2011.09, or whatever the latest is--I don't know how to check for that, but I downloaded and reinstalled pclos only a couple of weeks ago, after I screwed up the system rather badly, and as I mentioned above, upgraded via synaptic.
 
I appreciate you reading this thread and answering, but I must be missing something.

--doug

[djohnston]

From root it will not run.
[doug@localhost init.d]$ sudo network-up
Password:
sudo: network-up: command not found

Where are you getting your information from? It's certainly not this forum. We do not use the sudo command for tasks that require root access. We use the su command.

I don't know what the * means.

The * at the end of any listed file simply means the file is executable.

I appreciate you reading this thread and answering, but I must be missing something.

Open a terminal and report the results of these commands. Don't do anything else as user root. The first command, su -, will allow you to become root user in the terminal session after supplying root's password. The first exit command will end the user root's session. You need to copy the output from the terminal and paste it into a text editor or to the forum before issuing the exit command.

su -
apt-get update
apt-get check
exit
exit

[dougmack]

1. I have used sudo since June 2010 when it was part of the distro, and it may surprise you to learn that it can still be accessed in pclos if you know how.  I have never had any system problems or any other with it.  I have certainly _not_ turned off password checking, even tho no-one else ever uses my computer.  I personally believe that the need to explicitly exit root overshadows any danger that
might inhere in sudo.

2.  Here is the output of the commands you suggested:
[doug@localhost ~]$ su
Password:
[root@localhost doug]# apt-get update
Get:1 http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010 release [1888B]
Fetched 1888B in 0s (6738B/s)
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/main pkglist
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/main release
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/updates pkglist
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/updates release
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/nonfree pkglist
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/nonfree release
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/kde4 pkglist
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/kde4 release
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/games pkglist
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/games release
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/special pkglist
Hit http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca pclinuxos/2010/special release
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done

[root@localhost doug]# apt-get check
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done

(Exit Exit)

Question:  should one always use this apt-get update routine instead of the facilities in Synaptic?

Thank you once again for your assistance--doug

[djohnston]

I have used sudo since June 2010 when it was part of the distro, and it may surprise you to learn that it can still be accessed in pclos if you know how.

It's still part of the distro and it doesn't surprise me.

Question:  should one always use this apt-get update routine instead of the facilities in Synaptic?

No. Use the Synaptic GUI. It is meant to be used for all package management tasks.

The apt-get check showed no dependency errors? Open a terminal as regular user and start Rhythmbox by issuing the command rhythmbox. Post the errors.

[dougmack]

First time I tried seemed to hang machine so I couldn't read the terminal. Second time didn't hang machine, and produced the following:

[doug@localhost ~]$ rhythmbox

(rhythmbox:10984): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject)

(rhythmbox:10984): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_set_qdata: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(rhythmbox:10984): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Unable to grab media player keys: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon': no such name

I wonder if the third message is looking for rhythmbox-radio-browser?  (I just tried to open synaptic to check on that name, and
I find that I can't, so something has still hung part of the machine.)

--doug

--doug

[dougmack]

Had to cold-boot the machine to be able to start Synaptic once again.
--doug

[melodie]

Hi,
Maybe would you want to try this : change mirror, remove all Rhythmbox packages installed +configuration files and reinstall them from another mirror ? (after you clean the cache also). Or maybe would you want to try using  the same type of application but one which uses the KDE libs as you have a KDE install ? Maybe that would fit in better ? You can check the full list of installed packages (Rhythmbox dependencies) from the history in Synaptic if you keep it.