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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2011, 07:41:47 PM »

Because that's the way I want it to be!  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2011, 07:46:18 PM »

Because that's the way I want it to be!  Grin
     
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2011, 08:29:31 PM »

http://www.curiousread.com/2009/05/is-there-only-one-internet.html
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2011, 08:35:37 PM »

divide the limited infrastructure existing to create separated networks would be a monumental waste of money

the idea is connect the world, not separate it
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2011, 08:41:36 PM »

I think I heard that colleges have their own internet and it is way faster then the
one we use.
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2011, 08:53:18 PM »

some universities have alternative connections between their own networks supported by their own routers using the best optic fiber equipment using multiple lines of communication

sometimes those infrastructures allows communication between other universities but the channels are not shared to the rest of the network, the whole internet

the routers use those channels for specific tasks or situations

this is why you hear guys saying that they have 100 mbps connections for free but those connections only reach those speeds when using certain resources, local stuff mostly
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2011, 09:16:46 PM »

One thing is sure....

Management cannot survive without the actual workers.  They always seem superior, and boss us around.

But profits are made by what workers do.  Management wages are paid from the profits workers make to the company.  So they are an expense to the company, while we are a profit....! Think about that, boys and girls.

Management does not want us to know this......... but "we" really control the company.

Those Wall-Street protests you/I saw to the tv.   They were right.  IF only the majority of us "workers" united, management WOULD have to buckle.

Hmmmmm......
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2011, 01:15:27 AM »


Interesting they should mention FidoNet. As many readers will know, the BBS systems, linked by standard telephone lines, existed before ARPANET, the predecessor and root of the world wide web. FidoNet was a large network that transferred files during "out" times at night, and insured that users could communicate over long distances without paying long distance phone charges. I wonder if they still partly use that phone line system or use it only as a backup to routing traffic over the world wide web.

To have more than one internet, by definition, will mean to have a bunch of computers/routers on one segment completely inaccessible from computers/routers on another segment. If you have even computer that connects the two segment and all flow of traffic then this one computer, by definition, will be called a router and will serve a purpose of connecting the two segment and create one "internet".


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If Europe does not want to get traffic from North America for example, it is much easier to just type a few key strokes on the computer terminal and block North America IP addresses than to go the middle of the Atlantic ocean and cut the network cables that connect the two continents.


Except that right now the 13 root servers are all located in the U.S. So, even though a European country could block all access to U.S. IP address blocks, the U.S. could block all internet traffic to and from that European country. It's the main reason that China has been making noises about creating a different world wide network, beyond U.S. control. The other reason is that Archie put them up to it.  Wink Cheesy Grin

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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2011, 03:04:07 AM »

The other reason is that Archie put them up to it.  Wink Cheesy Grin

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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2011, 03:09:50 AM »

Because that's where all the action is, where everyone wants to go and everybody knows your name.
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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2011, 03:50:01 AM »

The "internet" or the "World Wide Web" is not really sanctioned by any one governing body. It is simply a network of (quite literally) physically connected computers that communicate via a common language.    

It's kind of modeled after the phone system. In fact, the phone system was how it first was meant to work.

Any two phones could talk to each other as long as they were both connected to the system.

The "system" was a vast and complicated network of cables that stretched miles and miles across vast distances.

Eventually, that system of cables reached Europe and their system of the same cabling design and the world was connected... via the phone.

All you had to know was the number at the receiving end and viola, you were talking to someone, on the phone.

Today's internet works in much the same way. It is simply a vast array of computers, talking to each other via that same antiquated hardware,, for the most part.    

I like to call, on the phone,, ANYBODY that I wish to call. I am currently able to do so thanks to the network that has been put into place.

I could not imagine having anyone "sanction off" my abilities to use my phone in this manner.

"Why Is There Only One Internet"?

It's because it is the only one we have. It is the internet. It is a system of wires, computers, satellites and radio communications.

It is by default,,, one.  Grin  
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« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2011, 05:11:13 AM »

Hmmm, suppose it's something they'll get around to in the Future, goodness knows what subnets are operating out there.
Wikileaks (plus numerous high level intrusions) showed why Governments should not be on the WWW, or The Internet. Then again; transparency of Governments is a good thing really.
Seperating Government from Internet, and WWW, would depress a lot of public servants though. No gaming, or Porn makes for a grumpy public Servant ...  Wink
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To have more than one internet, by definition, will mean to have a bunch of computers/routers on one segment completely inaccessible from computers/routers on another segment.

Sounds real simple Mike, let's do it  Cheesy Not at all impossible.
Modulation, DeModulation, and Parity checks; is how a Modem, or 'Router' decides what data it has been instructed to receive, and send. Let's Encrypt and be seperate in certain instances.

Let's not get confused by a LAN (Local Area Network.)
Your Local Supermarket uses a LAN, (no access to WWW). My Chemist does too, I asked them. University - ones I've been to - have a LAN between Campuses, I remember waiting 20 minutes for my workstation to boot  Grin ; plus we had limited Internet connectivity options too. That's going back a few years now.

I say the best answer, although each is fantastic, thanks for all replies !! - that fits in with my head in the clouds pondering ...
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There are all these things. They're called VPNs and they run on the same infrastructure, but encrypted. However, while businesses want to sell to consumers they need to be in a common space where they can be found.

Virtual private network

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User-created remote access VPNs may use passwords, biometrics, two-factor authentication or other cryptographic methods.

Network-to-network tunnels often use passwords or digital certificates, as they permanently store the key to allow the tunnel to establish automatically and without intervention from the user.

MORE ...

Thanks for people who thought about it, and those who said it can't happen  Grin
Basically slicing the WWW would be a real pain in the Uhum  Wink
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